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Problem with google.

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lynx

9:39 am on Oct 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My site is: <snip>

I just found a referral to my site from Google. On probing for the search term, I found it to be <snip> . I didn't do the search today, so, I don't know why anyone will search for that term. I launched the site only on Oct. 6th.

But, my problem is this: When i search for the term <my site>, my site comes at the top. But, when I search for terms like "<my keywords>" or "<my other keywords>", then it is just NOT displaying! My site is well cached in google. And, there aren't many competitors to these search terms as such I guess.

Can someone please investigate the search terms and analyse my site and help me out? I would be very grateful.

Also, when I search for the term <my site> , I get more than 14 results, but when I search for link:<my site> I see no backlinks!

Is there something wrong? Maybe google hasn't "really" indexed my site? Or is this the final, and I will never be getting those search terms?

Thanks in advance for any inputs!

Stan.

[edited by: trillianjedi at 12:10 pm (utc) on Oct. 10, 2005]
[edit reason] Please see TOS #13 - thanks ;-) [/edit]

trillianjedi

9:19 pm on Oct 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi Stan,

launched the site only on Oct. 6th.

You need some patience - google takes a little while to get around to indexing and listing your site properly.

In the interim period keep building content pages and keep getting inbound links.

Eventually, google will catch up with you.

There is nothing wrong - this is all quite normal.

TJ

lynx

10:28 am on Oct 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thanks! I am so relieved. :)

twebdonny

2:39 pm on Oct 11, 2005 (gmt 0)



google takes a little while to get around to indexing and listing your site properly.

Quite an understatement

phantombookman

3:07 pm on Oct 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Start worrying about ranking after 1 year

mellis

9:39 pm on Oct 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Is there a forum in which we can actually discuss our actual sites with help from others rather than not being able to mention the site name? That would really help when you have a specific question on something like I do and can't talk about it on this forum...

Webdetective

7:33 pm on Oct 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

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For banned sites, is it ever recommended to call Google about a reinclusion request? They do have a phone number.

JoeHouse

9:30 pm on Oct 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Question

I am indexed already in google but I have never submitted. I do realize they picked me up from other inbound links to my site.

Here is my question. Would it be a good or bad idea to submit my pages to google officially through google submit?

I asked this question because I recently lost a lot of pages on google and I don't know why. I am currently sandboxed, my site is about 6 months old since launch date.

I was talking to an SEO guy that said when ever he makes changes to a page he goes to google and submits that url so google picks up the changes quiker than waiting for the crawl.

He claims for example if he makes a change to the homepage or any internal pages he resubmits to google over and over every time he makes a change.

I asked him way he does it, his reply was that it assures him that those changes get indexed quickly and properly.

Has anybody heard of this? Does it really work?

rainborick

11:16 pm on Oct 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The most accurate answer is probably nobody knows for sure. Many people describe the addURL pages as being a cruel joke by the search engines, claiming they have no effect. It seems to me that submitting a URL does get it crawled... eventually - sometimes several weeks after submission. The upshot is that if you see a change in the status of a page that you submitted, its essentially impossible to know if (a) your submission finally reached the head of the queue, or (b) the search engine's normal crawling cycle finally got around to that page.

Following the theory that it can't hurt to submit a URL, I do so when it seems appropriate, but I hedge my bets. If its a new site, I post a prominent link somewhere and submit the URL. I've helped several sites with the Google www-canonicalization issue by first setting up the redirects and then submitting the URL and it feels like that's helped speed things along, but I have no way of knowing for sure. If you have pages that aren't getting indexed properly or are not indexed at all, submitting them may well help and can't possibly hurt, so I'd say go ahead!

sailorjwd

11:27 pm on Oct 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

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JoeHouse,

Google has a thing called SiteMaps. This will likely help you. I wouldn't bother submitted the pages since G says to only support the homepage. (you could annoy them)

Search on G for sitemaps... signup and try to follow the instructions :)

It helped my site a lot.

mjtaylor

1:43 pm on Oct 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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For banned sites, is it ever recommended to call Google about a reinclusion request? They do have a phone number.

*I* wouldn't call them ... there is a recommended procedure for reinclusion. A search for same will yield instructions that were originally published by Cutts on his blog ... and republished (without penalty ;0 ) elsewhere, including this forum, I believe.

Cheers, MJ

SFReader

2:16 pm on Oct 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My personal experience is tha the add URL tool is effective for both new pages and updated ones. I usually see the results in the SERPS within 2 days.

Webdetective

2:50 pm on Oct 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I'm very happy to say as of 11pm last night, I'm back in! Reinclusion is successful. The ban has been lifted. My google toolbar is even showing Pagerank 4, exactly what it was before. I'm not yet seeing backlinks yet, but I'm sure it takes time for them to show up in the index.

Somebody in a different forum pointed out to me some problems I was unaware of so I fixed them and notified google of it via original case number. I had an outdated google sitemap full of dead links, duplicate and redundant links, and some duplicate affiliate content on a couple pages.

I see Google has retained an old outdated version of my homepage in their cache.
Fred

lynx

4:24 pm on Oct 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I am getting more concerned. What is this banning? Google bans pages?

What are the criteria?

Cause I went ahead and submitted to lots of FFA links pages :(

crankin

4:36 pm on Oct 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My site has been dropped off the index as of a few days ago. Clean, authority site, lots of great content, handmade relevant links, PR6 for 2 years, etc etc etc.

Just like that *boom* completely off the index. No listing, no links, PR-whitebar, plenty of references to me in the index using 'allinurl' or my name, but my actual site has completely disappeared into the ether.

Sent emails to G, no reply.

I know everyone always says "I don't know why this happened, waaaah!", but seriously, I've worked very hard for the last 4 years to make it a squeaky clean whitehat authority site that kisses Googletoes. There's zero reason to have banned me, and up until a few days ago, they loved me just fine.