Google penalty for site wide links

[pokerbull]

Has anyone notice a Google penalty from site wide links. I purchased site wide links for two my sites a month ago. Both sites have recently disappeared from SERPS.

[tedster]

Yes, I have heard similar reports, and Google has been quite loud about not liking paid links. My understanding, however, was that Google would just ignore such links, not that they would penalize or drop the site.

[Wizard]

Yes, penalty would mean you can harm your competition. But anyway, there are many rumours that it hurts.

I put site-wide links from a few pages I designed to my home page, but I added this links gradually, not all at once. No problems occured.

There are many sites doing well with site-wide links. Look and phpbb group, which gains site-wide backlinks from every forum using their software.

[steveb]

Google has no penalty for sitewide links.

[ncw164x]

Google has no penalty for sitewide links

Hmm are you completely sure about that, sites what had site wide links have certainly taken a bad hit in recent months and are not continuing to do site wide anymore.

[steveb]

Of course I'm completely sure of that. The nonsensical idea gets posted all the time, in spite of the endless examples where it is not true. Oooo poor Wikipedia, suffering from all those Dmoz links...

Google has lots of spam penalties. It inflicts them for lots of reasons which sometimes are the result of combining multiple reasons.

And then at the same time even talking about "sitewide links" is simply absurd. The idea that a link on every page of Dmoz and having a link on every page of a one million page scraper site that has one billion blog comment links pointing at it should both be mentioned as "sitewide links" is nuts.

There is nothing wrong with sitewide links. And there certainly are ways you could get penalized for having sitewide links.

[tahiti]

i agree with SteveB...google doesnt have 'clear' penalty with site wide links. in fact for recent updates in my industry, sites that jumped up to the top rankings are having a lot of site wide links (either buying it or getting it from other sites of his own).

-- thus, there's site wide links can be very handy from my observations. However, i find that Google now is deducting (or eliminating) reciprocal link's weightage ...burying down all my sites that rely heavily on link exchange campaign.

anyone of you seeing the same thing?

[ncw164x]

Hang on a minute, you 2 are both saying there is no penalty and then in the next breath saying you can get a penalty for having site wide links

which one are you choosing?

[steveb]

Which what are you choosing?

Don't turn something plainly obvious into some weirdly twisted tin-hatism.

There is no penalty for hyperlinking to sites.
Sometimes you can get a penalty by hyperlinking to sites. (link to bad neighborhoods)

There is no penalty for having words on a page.
Sometimes you can get a penalty by putting words on a page. (hidden text; repetitive keyword stuffing)

These are both very clear, just like with sitewide links.

There is no penalty for swinging a baseball bat.
You can get a penalty for swinging a baseball bat onto the hood of your neighbor's car.

[ncw164x]

Now that explains it more clearer Steve...cheers