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Iam about to finish a really good site (all original content) and I want to put more work in it after launch so that I get it up in rank as soon as possible. It's in a very competetive area.
What delay? Newly acquired inbound results quite quickly, SERPs and real PageRank change, only toolbar PR is outdated. Have I missed something?
The delay happens when you acquire too many links too quickly. I experimented on this a while back and everytime Iam able to get 300+ links (on different domains) on the same day, it takes months for almost all the links in this batch to come out in the results. When they are finally credited, they are credited wholesale (all at the same time). This happened to me on 2 sites already and Iam waiting on the result of the same on a third one.
if yes, PR would only be for entertainment purposes.
we have a pretty good relationship with a few dmoz editors in our region we submit our clients too, they all get listed into dmoz quickly & obtain PR quickly.. but they simply don't rank. :/
definately a age thing.. you would hope when your clients sites go through about "3" major updates of the serp's they should be given the opportunity to hit some popular terms.. but with the way Google is/has been that could be 12 months away;)
Actually my quest for +PR5 for this new site is probably just for entertainment purposes only, come to think of it. I really do find it very hard to rank well in Google's SERPs for a competetive keyphrase much more do it within 1 year for a completely new site considering all the aging considerations now in play.
But toolbar PR is still worth something I guess - marketing wise. Very much like the stamp of your site's good Alexa rankings are worth a lot if used well (marketing wise), inspite of the fact that we here all know that it's just a big joke.
What delay? Newly acquired inbound results quite quickly, SERPs and real PageRank change, only toolbar PR is outdated. Have I missed something?The delay happens when you acquire too many links too quickly. I experimented on this a while back and everytime Iam able to get 300+ links (on different domains) on the same day, it takes months for almost all the links in this batch to come out in the results. When they are finally credited, they are credited wholesale (all at the same time). This happened to me on 2 sites already and Iam waiting on the result of the same on a third one.
If you get plenty links from one domain, for example site-wide footer link, it obviously may take weeks for all pages of this site to be crawled. 300 links each one from different domain seems unreal, and clearly could trigger something in Google.
I asked my question because what was said about the delay sounded to me like discussing when links appear in 'link:' search, while it's commonly known that 'link:' command doesn't work anymore and there is no rule about anything appearing in results in such search ;)
wonder how many SEO's have stopped taking on the optimization of new fresh domains.. betcha a quite a few!
more hassle than there worth, especially if you have small local clients that are thick as bricks :D