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PR 5 and above within 1 year. Possible?

         

brickwall

4:06 pm on Oct 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Considering the penalty for acquiring too many in bound links too fast, and the apparent delay in "counting" links towards your actual total IBLs, I wonder if it is at all possible to achieve toolbar PR 5 or above within 1 year with a totally new site / domain.

Any experience on this guys.

Thanks.

tedster

6:50 pm on Oct 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It takes just a few beautiful links from a few GREAT websites. One of our clients did it recently.

stuartc1

6:59 pm on Oct 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Sure its still possible, I've personally obtained pr6 in around 4 months this year. Just a matter of getting some nice links as mentioned above.

Wizard

9:07 pm on Oct 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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apparent delay in "counting" links towards your actual total IBLs

What delay? Newly acquired inbound results quite quickly, SERPs and real PageRank change, only toolbar PR is outdated. Have I missed something?

FattyB

9:24 pm on Oct 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It is possible, our site launched July last year, has main page and most sub domain as PR 6. Though I have a feeling the next jump might take a while.

brickwall

6:49 am on Oct 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Good to know it's possible. :)

Iam about to finish a really good site (all original content) and I want to put more work in it after launch so that I get it up in rank as soon as possible. It's in a very competetive area.

What delay? Newly acquired inbound results quite quickly, SERPs and real PageRank change, only toolbar PR is outdated. Have I missed something?

The delay happens when you acquire too many links too quickly. I experimented on this a while back and everytime Iam able to get 300+ links (on different domains) on the same day, it takes months for almost all the links in this batch to come out in the results. When they are finally credited, they are credited wholesale (all at the same time). This happened to me on 2 sites already and Iam waiting on the result of the same on a third one.

nuthin

7:27 am on Oct 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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on a new (fresh) domain that obtains PR quickly due to links off a few high PR authority domains, do you's find that your web site still won't rank for your main keywords that you optimized for until the domain & links age a bit more?

if yes, PR would only be for entertainment purposes.

we have a pretty good relationship with a few dmoz editors in our region we submit our clients too, they all get listed into dmoz quickly & obtain PR quickly.. but they simply don't rank. :/

definately a age thing.. you would hope when your clients sites go through about "3" major updates of the serp's they should be given the opportunity to hit some popular terms.. but with the way Google is/has been that could be 12 months away;)

brickwall

7:37 am on Oct 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Same experience here nuthin'

Actually my quest for +PR5 for this new site is probably just for entertainment purposes only, come to think of it. I really do find it very hard to rank well in Google's SERPs for a competetive keyphrase much more do it within 1 year for a completely new site considering all the aging considerations now in play.

But toolbar PR is still worth something I guess - marketing wise. Very much like the stamp of your site's good Alexa rankings are worth a lot if used well (marketing wise), inspite of the fact that we here all know that it's just a big joke.

Wizard

12:46 pm on Oct 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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What delay? Newly acquired inbound results quite quickly, SERPs and real PageRank change, only toolbar PR is outdated. Have I missed something?

The delay happens when you acquire too many links too quickly. I experimented on this a while back and everytime Iam able to get 300+ links (on different domains) on the same day, it takes months for almost all the links in this batch to come out in the results. When they are finally credited, they are credited wholesale (all at the same time). This happened to me on 2 sites already and Iam waiting on the result of the same on a third one.

If you get plenty links from one domain, for example site-wide footer link, it obviously may take weeks for all pages of this site to be crawled. 300 links each one from different domain seems unreal, and clearly could trigger something in Google.

I asked my question because what was said about the delay sounded to me like discussing when links appear in 'link:' search, while it's commonly known that 'link:' command doesn't work anymore and there is no rule about anything appearing in results in such search ;)

nuthin

1:45 pm on Oct 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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age of links are simply powerful these days in Google's eyes.
I generally get new web dev client sites that just got a re-design through our company to optimize.. and the real gold ones are at least a pr3 and on the net since 1999-2001.
PR ain't that great, but indeed they are authority domains, simply because of the age of all those links they still got. hit quite nice terms too ;)
change a title here and there.. throw in a search engine friendly product catalog, next fresh date on the big G.. my work is done. ;) client is happy.

wonder how many SEO's have stopped taking on the optimization of new fresh domains.. betcha a quite a few!

more hassle than there worth, especially if you have small local clients that are thick as bricks :D

fischermx

1:59 pm on Oct 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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A know a brick and mortar business that went from a zero to PR6 in less than half year.
They did nothing like hiring SEO, just a good business promotion that got them linked from popular websites.