Getting Ranking For New Website

How Long Should This Normally Take?

[JoeHouse]

I have a relatively new website that offically launched in the middle of April of 2005.

With that said its been about five months that my site has been crawled and indexed but my listing do no seem to appear anywhere within the top 1000 sites for many if not all my keywords.

How long does it normally take to start seeing some signs of life?

Currently I am living off of cpc just to survive but money is running out!

I have done everything possible to obtain good rankings and I have done everything "white hat" style.

I cannot figure this out, its becoming very frustrating.

Has anybody experience this themselfs? Any suggestions you can share with me?

Thanks!

[shail2005]

Hi
It happens . one more thing I would like to add here that can anybody , give me the idea about the "Relationship between backlinks and page rank"
As Google algo says , PR is proportional to Blinks ...
But it not always happens ,
A site i have seen (have more than 3000 blinks on google) , have PR 0.
and one site have only one blink and lived on this month , have got the PR 3.
After having a more than a year of exp in this field ,
Its still a question in my mind that " Why there is no hence proved theorem in SEO " while some major player like Google , yahoo and others are there to realize their presense to the web master s and end user also .

[peterdouglas]

I find once dmoz approves and lists your site in their directory, the site starts doing well. A lot of smaller directories tend to feed off dmoz. That said NONE of my sites have ever been approved or listed on dmoz and I'm not sure why. They're clean, complete, legitimate, well structured and professional looking.

I did a site for a friend of mine and submitted to every directory I could find. She's doing a bit better, but the directories she's in come before her site and her Google page rank is zero. A competitior's site is hideous looking, incomplete and poorly organized. But, they were lucky enough to get dmoz to index it and they're enjoying a decent google PR and come up at the top on many keyword searches on Yahoo and Google.

Very frustrating to say the least.

[artdog]

No matter what I do my sites begin ranking on G at about 15 months.

[ska_demon]

JoeHouse

It can take anything from 1 day to Never to get your site ranking. As an example, I have a personal site that ranked well for a keyword 2 days after I uploaded the page.

A lot of factors will determine your sites positions.

Do you use frames?
Is your site optimised badly or too much?
Do you have a good title and description containing your keywords?
Do your pages contain a good amount of unique keyword rich content or is it just another datafeed?
Did you aquire any backlinks? (blinks, I like that ;oP)
If so, how quickly? (Google Sandbox)
How competetive is the market that your site is in?

If it is a very competetive area you will be fighting against a lot of well established sites. Try going for longer, slightly less targetted keywords. You may find your traffic picks up a little. Once you know what you CAN rank for you will be able to target your keywords a little better.

I hope I am not being patronising, but I don't know how much you know about optimising sites for se's.

If you would trust me to sticky me your URL I would be more than happy to take a look at your site and let you know if there is anything suspect.

Ska

[ska_demon]

shail2005

You say that pr is 'porportional' to the number of backlinks. I hate to say it but that is a bit off the mark.

I would say pr is more likely to be an indication of the QUALITY and RELEVANCY of backlinks.

The 1 link you have that gives your site a pr of 3 is probably a relevant link from an authority site with high pr. (my guess)

Also I must add that pr has NO bearing on the SERPs.
I have seen many sites of pr2 for example, outranking pr5 sites.

PR has become an obsession for many people. I don't think it has any real place in determining the value of a website. The only thing I can see it doing is giving webmasters a heart attack when they see pr drop.

As an example. The personal site that I mentioned above lost pr sometime during the year. It dropped from pr3 to pr1 on the homepage. I have seen my traffic increase 3x since the site lost pr.

Huh?

Ska

[peterdouglas]

Good points! I have a personal site that I have done nothing with in terms of seo but it has a pagerank of 4. One link is from a well respected high PR site which I'm sure has a lot to do with it.

True, there are a lot of good sites with low pr.