My site has been First Now vanished from Google

My site has been the first of its kind, I drop off Google

[sabine7777]

For the past year I have experienced periodically being completely dropped off Google. My site has been the FIRST of its kind and is in all the natural search results on the first spot. I'm just a small business, but since spet of 2004 I have been vanishing off of Google every 6 weeks or so--recently it has been more often and for longer periods. Does Google discriminate against Older sites? Are they doing it so that we will advertise with them? Any help, advice, comment from a desperate single mother of 4!

[reseller]

Celebrating Post No. 1000 on This Upadte/non Update Thread

Hi Folks

Soon today we shall reach to post No. 1000, and this call for a special celebration because this is the looooongest non-update thread on WebmasterWorld that I have ever seen.

And we need to give our lovely thread a name. Why not:

Bacon Polenta
In memory of our kind fellow member Matt Cuttīs hijacked/GoogleWashed blog

[poppymccool]

I have a site that got about 300 hits a day from Google that dropped off at 10:14 a.m. today. It no longer exits.

Yesterday I submitted a site-map for it. I don't know if there is a coincidence or not, but it's pretty weird.

There are NO seo on the site. It's an Moveable Type blog that I post to about three to six times a day. Is this happening to anyone else?

[dabblingmum]

I've been following this thread since Friday Sept. 30. I had no idea the problem was a Google issue when my traffic simply disappeared. I kept staring at my website wondering what could have caused me to be penalized. I even sent an email to Google, but only got a form response which wasn't much help because I don't spam.

I went from 1,500 natural searches via Google to zero--per day. After spending years building a reputable website without gimmicks, its very disheartening to learn that spam sites have taken control of the Internet.

When I do a search for keywords, I find "snippets" of my website along with "snippets" of several other websites in the serps. And it's not just one page, its page after page after page. I've found directory and other search engines with my website's links and snippets of information along with other websites. I've even found web pages that were nothing more than the several keywords repeated over and over, or better yet, what looks like a directory page, only to turn out to be a disgusied Google Adsense page.

And the few legitimate websites that are at the top, used to be several pages behind me.

If Google were to remove duplicate pages, I think it would be more beneficial to work on a program that removes other search egnines, directory websites, and snippet websites from the listings; not websites with actual articles (err content). So my conclusion is that Google Goofed Big Time and Hasn't repsonded because they are frantically trying to fix things and come up with a good "excuse" for the mix up.

I just wish they would go back to the old system and crawl everyone's websites and then worry about fixing their glitch.

[Iguana]

I suspect that the 'darkside' are struggling just as much as the rest of us with these filters/duplicate page penalties and particularly the 'sandbox'. Google will try and sort this problem but I think they lost control of their algo when they moved away from Pagerank (for good reasons no doubt) with the Florida update. A search engine based on trying to filter out that bad sites is a very difficult thing to achieve.

If your sites are currently penalised, then you won't have the 'seed' to create scrapers anyway. Just keep on going with the content, look into the mirror every night and say "Google, Google, Google"

[Crush]

reseller 1000 posts and 75% are from you. What a useless thread. You need to think more and post less. Someone should lock it. This serves no use to anyone now.

[dramstore]

Crush, how nice of you to think about the many people that have been hit hard by this update.

Still, Now I can sleep at night knowing your sites are okay.

[AlexMiles]

Hey Crush, why don't you write our posts for us? Good luck.

[alexo]

>>...since writing original content will not stop

Well...Iīm gonna tell you otherwise ;-)

the interesting situation is with my site:

have pages with original content .,
trying to search in G "ORGINAAL CONTENT TITLE".
find 5-10 results.
first results are sites which are using my rss feeds and have displayed title or body of this articles with link to my site.

and only the last result is mine :-)?

why?

[Iguana]

It may have taken a long time but this thread has figured out what Google are penalising and even given the example of Matt Cutts blog. Most update threads don't do anything like that

[stella_kl]

Where is GoogleGuy. He owes us an explanation. I won't be putting food on the table at this rate!

[steveb]

The example from Matt's blog is a bad one. That is more likely the sandbox, or at least, it *should* be a sandbox issue.

Despite the wasted space of half this thread, and even though there will always be parasites who descend on these threads to post their ongoing hatred of Google comments, there have been some useful things posted, and some directions people can try to go.

[reseller]

Crush

>>reseller 1000 posts and 75% are from you.<<

Now why have you forced me to do some calculations in such late hour my local time (instead of hitting the bed) ;-)

For obvious reasons I couldnīt go through the whole thread and the 1000 posts to verify your claim, but you are most welcome to do it. Its your claim after all.

However, instead I went through the latest 300 posts. I.e from post No. 701 to post No. 1000, and here is what I got:

I have posted 38 posts.

Now lets do the math together:

38/300 X 100 = 12.7%

So much for your 75% ;-)

Good night and God bless.

[kamikaze Optimizer]

For you data center watchers, the following are showing some big movement for a few things I follow:

216.239.59.104
216.239.59.105
216.239.59.106
216.239.59.107
216.239.59.147
216.239.59.99

66.102.11.104
66.102.11.106
66.102.11.107
66.102.11.99

[eyezshine]

Sinse my sites got banned from google, I have noticed referrals in my stats from alot of texas-holdem-poker.html webpages.

When I visit the referring page there is no reference to my website at all even when I view the source.

Every one of my banned websites has this problem.

There are many different domains doing the referring but I checked them all out and they are all owned by the same person or company.

I could not figure out how my sites could be getting referrals from the spam sites until I started reading about Matt Cutts website getting hijacked by cloakers. Now it all makes sense!

Some examples of the referring urls ar below:

[Some...] site.com/medication-online.html
[Some...] site.com/online-prescriptions.html
[Some...] site.com/prescriptions-online.html
[Some...] site.com/cialis-online.html
[Some...] site.com/buy-hydrocodone-online.html
[Some...] site.net/pacific-poker.html
[Some...] site.com/slot-machines.html
[Some...] site.com/diet-pill.html
[personal-loans.Some...] site.com
[Some...] site.com/online-slots.html
[buy-phentermine.Some...] site.com
[discount-phentermine.Some...] site.com
[credit-card-application.Some...] site.com
[Some...] site.com/online-slot.html
[bad-credit-loans.Some...] site.com
[adipex.Some...] site.com
[Some...] site.com/free-online-slots.html
[buy-viagra-online.Some...] site.com

Am I the only one seeing these types of referrers in their stats?When you visit the referrer there is nothing about my website at all?

[dabblingmum]

I noticed Google cached my homepage today, but sadly it wasn't able to crawl my website because none of the new pages are cached.

I haven't changed anything on the homepage to cause them to NOT be able to crawl, so it must be another Google glitch.

[kamikaze Optimizer]

Eyezshine:

A user is using an anonymizer tool to protect his true referring page identity.

This is common.

[modemmike]

eyezshine, I have seen things like that as well with some of my domains... change your browser agent string to look like Gbot and visit those pages and see what shows up... FireFox makes it real easy to change your Browser Agent and look like a Gbot... funny what you find when looking through Google colored glasses.

reseller, crush doesn't speak for me, carry on.

[FattyB]

Kamikaze,

I notice lots of movement on some of those as well. Not that I was a datacenter watcher until recently :-)

Though inline with other problems discussed today I note on "site name" search on some of those the front page now lists an Afghanistan blog (hosted by Blogger just to complete the picture) who have copied a news article from our site.../-: Not that I am bothered about a search on "site name" since not how we get traffic, but if repeated across the board can only be bad news I think.

Indeed other sites either linking to us or posting a snippet and link have now moved onto the front page of the results for the first time ever...will be interesting to see wht effect this has if rolled out across all the data centers...though I fear a negative one for us as the source.

Easier to spot copyright violations mind you! Though getting the time to follow them up is another matter...

[edited by: FattyB at 1:10 am (utc) on Oct. 5, 2005]

[kamikaze Optimizer]

FattyB:

My observations are, on those data centers, that Google has given credit for new links. Maybe.

I say this because a site of mine that I do not optimize shot up to number one for a keyword that is in the anchor text of a PR8 link that it recently recieved.

You with me?

[FattyB]

Yes, that would make sense regards new links. The new entries are all recent posts with snippets from us or links to us.

Though not having a positive effect on our own listing under "site name" but hopefully will have a positive on results for the term linked.

Though again even if they had not linked (in this case they linked the headline) it would still bring them up under a search for "site name," which is bad I guess, unless (where a link) the punter clicks through...with snippets I would think they will but not with a full article copy like this example...though that is a copyright manner anyway I guess.

If it rolls out then might see a traffic increase, will see what happens tomorrow...can only get better after last week or so...I hope.