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Google Ban

Does it look like a Google Ban?

         

rythm

8:52 am on Aug 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hello everyone!

Just wanted to share the following with you guys and have your views on it....

A new client contacted me with the following problem.

His site seems to be banned from G (No rankings/No PR now)...But what i found strange is that it is still cached by G.....and cache date gets updated almost every week....

My concern here is if the website has been banned, it shouldnt be Indexed even!
Please let me have your views on this....ThankYou

willie50

3:57 am on Sep 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi rythm

I feel sorry for your client, I had a site also taken out of the google search, since April, and it's still been crawled almost every day, I have sent a dozen emails to different google departments, and no one is telling me that the site has been banned or not.
I have no PR, no back links, and no searches from google, I asked google if it is worth it for me to get rid of the domain and start again with a new one, they told me that "we will send your question to our engineers" and that's it.
No "no" and No "yes" so I am still waiting.

Go to [webmasterworld.com...] and look for lufc1955 post

all the best

Willie50

texasville

4:01 am on Sep 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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As i understand it..if you can search on the site...ww.thesite.com..and it comes up then you aren't banned. However, how old is the site...if it is less than six months old...probably sandboxed.

rythm

8:20 am on Sep 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Its not a new site...pretty old!

But now i think it is banned completely...The cache has stopped showing up too..:(

Frederic1

8:30 am on Sep 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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how can you know a site is cached if it doesn't show in the search results :\

internetheaven

8:37 am on Sep 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Like I said in [webmasterworld.com...]

There is currently some work going on with the Google database. My site has been on and off intermittently for a couple of days now. Try:
site:www.example.com
site:example.com
www.example.com
example.com

and see if you show up under any of them. Also, if you have the Google toolbar go to your main page and check the Google cached version. If you show up in any of these then I suggest you simply wait a few days before panicking.

Dayo_UK

8:42 am on Sep 2, 2005 (gmt 0)



IH

It has been like that for months

Take a look at a site search on :-

gfe-nf2.google.com

and then

gfe-wr2.google.com

If you are affected by this bug/feature - or whatever you may notice massive differences.

rythm

5:27 am on Sep 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Frederic1,

we can check the cache for any webpage in Google using the following command:

cache:www.sitename.com (for the Homepage)

cache:www.sitename.com/abc.htm (for any of the internal pages)

rythm

5:30 am on Sep 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Checked all these:
site:www.example.com
site:example.com
www.example.com
example.com

But No Luck...:(

cws3di

5:45 am on Sep 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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If the site used to be indexed and now you are getting:

Sorry, no information is available for the URL www.example.com

I highly suggest you start digging through the website code to see if there are any obvious problems - kindergarten Black Hat stuff like hidden text or something simple.

Also ask your potential client if his previous webmaster had any mirror domains or parked domains pointed at the same content.

i.e. Evaluate the website for obvious problems first, before you try to figure out if you can dig it out of the hole at Google.

Lorel

3:09 pm on Sep 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I specialize in redesigning websites and the MAJOR problems I keep seeing from sites that are having problems are usually warned about in Google's guidelines:


Design and Content Guidelines:

*Check for broken links and correct HTML.

Technical Guidelines:

*Allow search bots to crawl your sites without session IDs or arguments that track their path through the site. . . .. Using these techniques may result in incomplete indexing of your site, as bots may not be able to eliminate URLs that look different but actually point to the same page.

etc.

In other words: Validate your pages, check your links and if you're using ASP and PHP remove session IDs.

surfgatinho

5:21 pm on Sep 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have a site that still appears in google via the site:.... method or if I enter the exact URL. However, anything else and nothing.

It's not a highly competitive area, the site still has PR5 and an ODP listing plus lots of other relevant one way incoming links.

I've recently comletely rebuilt the site and it is 100% valid html/css, still nothing.
Loads of suplemental results in Google, which is strange as these pages have beeen bringing up a 404 for 2 months now?!

Google just isn't even spidering the page

Any suggestions

Lorel

10:26 pm on Sep 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I've recently comletely rebuilt the site and it is 100% valid html/css, still nothing.
Loads of suplemental results in Google, which is strange as these pages have beeen bringing up a 404 for 2 months now?!

If this problem occurred after you rebuilt the site then perhaps that is part of the problem. Is there anything in your new design that could have caused a problem? Check your .htaccess file for errors also.

Supplemental results usually indicate either your own site is duplicating content (may be faulty .asp or .php, etc. session ids causing a duplicate index of pages) or others have duplicated your site or the copy you have used was previously posted elsewhere first. If it's the later even though you have permission you will likely get the penalty for it.

rythm

5:55 am on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for the suggestions..I wil start looking at the code closely.....

surfgatinho

11:30 am on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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If this problem occurred after you rebuilt the site then perhaps that is part of the problem. Is there anything in your new design that could have caused a problem? Check your .htaccess file for errors also.

Thanks, but the site went down way before I changed anything. As far as duplicate content goes I think it's unlikely as it's just a local business site. I thought the suplemental results just meant the page still exists but doesn't have any links going to it

Lorel

8:40 pm on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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As far as duplicate content goes I think it's unlikely as it's just a local business site. I thought the suplemental results just meant the page still exists but doesn't have any links going to it

No it's a penalty for having duplicate content.. Backlinks do not affect Supplemental results.

I would give your site a thorough once over (See Brett's 25 steps to success) and eliminate whatever problems might be there.