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How Useful is a DMoz Listing for PageRank?

         

dualfragment

2:57 am on Jul 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have had my site since January of this year. I have repeatedly tried and tried to get visitors to my site, but I have had little luck. Since launch, I've made only $15 from Google adsense, of which I have never seen due to the $100 limit.

Today...I went and checked out dmoz.org. What did I find? My site was listed!

What will this do for my google pagerank when it updates? My pagerank is currently 3. Also, how long ago was the last update?

Thanks :)

ska_demon

12:06 pm on Jul 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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You may find your pr rises a bit next update. PR udpdated only a couple of weeks ago and the next one won't be for another couple of months if history is anything to go by. Don't hold too much hope on pr alone improving your traffic. There are many sites with good pr that don't rank.

It is most important to remember that pr is only a tiny part of what makes your site rank. It is really an indication of the quality and number of sites that link to you.

Ska

bether2

2:02 pm on Jul 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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What will this do for my google pagerank when it updates? My pagerank is currently 3.

It depends on the pagerank of the dmoz category where your site is listed. If the category is PR5, it might help bring your PR up to a 4. If the cat has a PR4, your site will probably stay at PR3 - according to the toolbar. However, since the toolbar only shows PR in increments of 1, the PR might actually be a "high" PR3.

Also, once your site is in the google directory, that will affect your PR also.

And, as you have probably read elsewhere in these forums, google doesn't update the PR at the same time as they update the visible PR on the toolbar. Most people think the "real" PR updates before the change shows on the toolbar.

bether2

2:09 pm on Jul 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Oh, and here's a tip on how to get more traffic to your site.

Write some articles about your topic (or hire someone to write them). Submit the articles to "free content" sites - ie, sites that have articles that other webmasters can use on their site or in ezines. (Search google for "article submission" or "submit your article" to find these sites.) Be sure to put your tag line - with a link to your site - at the bottom of the articles.

This will bring traffic from the ezines and sites that use your articles and should help your PR also.

MrRoy

4:06 pm on Jul 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yes you will definitely get some benefit from DMOZ in your Page Rank. PR will totally depend in the category in which your site got listed. How high is its PR and how many Outbound Links it has?

Try to get links from high PR sites. Do some link exchange with relevant sites. It will help you too attain a high PR.

dualfragment

8:11 pm on Jul 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The pagerank of the area my site was listed on is a 6. There are 823 sites in the entire category, but mine is in the top level of what my site is about, not within the sub groups that also affect the number.

Also, I notice a ton of sites in msn that have my site linked now, which appear to be getting their info directly from DMOZ's directory. Will these sites help my PR as well?

My overall goal is to get my site fully spidered by googlebot (it has over 40,000 pages of unique content).

nsqlg

9:13 pm on Jul 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Some things had changed over the years... but not all.

When I started as webmaster, people made sites to spread our ideas, appear, anything else, but not for gain money, opposite, only expenses with hosting and hard work, maybe one or two mails of your visitors happily by day, "Search engines? What a hell?". Today... before your site goes online the only thing that matter is the money.

The problem of your site dont is the DMOZ, Google, Yahoo... maybe you just need make your visitors happy.

(sorry for my english)

dualfragment

9:28 pm on Jul 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The entire reason I made my site had nothing to do with money, and I don't see why you would assume this. What I am in is mostly plagued with sites that have spyware or tons of popups...I just have a small adsense ad to help pay for hosting costs and NOTHING more.

If I could get visitors, my site would provide much more than other similar sites which have popups every 5 seconds.

iblaine

9:33 pm on Jul 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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In addition to the link from dmoz, you get people that syndicate the content and inbound links from those sources. The benefit is marginal, as people are quick to point out. There are exceptions to the rule, such as free webhosting companies that invite people to create free sites, those people get dmoz links, the end result is a free webhosting site with thousands of dmoz links and the ability to rank for keywords.

nsqlg

10:48 pm on Jul 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The entire reason I made my site had nothing to do with money

Ok, sorry, but my tip keep same. Forget search engines by now, just make your visitors more happy, build a useful content, I wish the better for you.

(Another tip, search engines dont will like a PR3 site with 40k pages and can apply a filter IMHO).

hutcheson

12:01 am on Jul 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>Another tip, search engines dont will like a PR3 site with 40k pages and can apply a filter IMHO

This is obviously wrong on the face of it. Sites don't have PR, pages have PR.

If the home page of a site is PR3, the effect of that PR is "distributed" among all the pages that page links to (presumably other pages on the site.) If your site navigation is fairly symmetric, that leaves very little effect to percolate down to the leaf pages -- say approximately PR -1 or -2 (yes, those are negative numbers!) That may not be enough to get those pages included in the Google index.

scangillo

5:42 am on Jul 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Good advice Bether2, I always forget to submit my own articles. Anyways, since I'm running an internet marketing blog, do you have any topic related site to suggest?

Thanks in advance
Scangilli

bether2

2:45 pm on Jul 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Scangilli,

I don't know any specific sites for your topic, but will send you sticky with URLs that have various categories where you can submit articles - since URLs in posts are against TOC.