Re-Inclusion Request

Getting your site successfully re-included into the Google index

[Panacea]

On April 19th 2005, in a thread called “Google's 302 Redirect Problem”, ( [webmasterworld.com...] ), GoogleGuy gave instructions on how webmasters can contact Google to apply for re-inclusion for websites hit with 302 redirects/duplicate penalties problems.

It has been over a month now since I applied for a re-inclusion request, however nothing has changed. I initially got an automated response back from Google but that’s about all. My sites are still stuck in the supplemental index, and are still not getting spidered.

Has anyone followed GoogleGuy's instructions for re-inclusions and received a non-automated email responses or any indication that their sites will be re-included in the Google index?

[12scott34]

I to have this exact problem. My site was booted about 5 months ago and still nothing. Hopefully someone can help here...

[zeus]

Sorry to say this but dont expect any reaction on such a letter even if googleguy said anything, if you are not amazon or other, it dossent matter.

Thats the way it is and my advice is give as little info to any SE as possible about your site/business, never buy domain, email, alerts (site related), hosting...

[crobb305]

Yeah. Just give up.

C

[Crush]

I have written numerous times and even got responses. These sites have and I guess never will come back. We are talking 1000's of $$$ of investment down the drain. That is the way it goes >:(

[Panacea]

So it seems then that the consensus of opinion is don’t take seriously anything GoogleGuy has to say. He does not post here to give advice to webmasters; his purpose is to collect information and spy on these discussions?

[SEOtop10]

My site was hijacked with 302s. Now my home page is a URL only listing and almost all other pages are supplementary results.

I have applied to Google for reinclusion consideration but no positive development till now. The site is linked from some pretty high PR pages but even then, it is not being spidered.

I invite your comment on the following plan --

1. I book the .info domain for my main domain name and transfer all the pages there. Then I setup a 301 permanent redirect from my main domain (.com one) to take every page request to the corresponding .info page.

2. I generate 1-2 direct links from some good pages so that the new domain gets spidered.

Questions --
1. Can the PR and other link benefits be transferred to the new domain, even when it has duplicate content penalty?

2. What about the other search engines? Can they also pass the linking benefits to the new target?

I understand that I will have to take a hit on the sentiments (the clients don't take an info domain as seriously as they take a com domain, specially for a commercial service). However this might be better than not existing at all, or living with a zero pagerank page.

Please comment. Thanks!

[crobb305]

Google favors button pushers. If I were to trash my 4 year old domain today and start creating hundreds of spammy sites I could be back in the game. I created my domain for branding and the site has good content. Google doesn't appreciate that, however.

And if the reinclusion request I sent in early April were to do any good, I would have expected to see some positive changes on today's major update being discussed in another thread. All pages of my 34-page site are still indexed url only.

[Shurik]

No changes for me too. I've send at least 10 re-inclusion requests and still no intelligent response. Wish i could put them in my shoes! Can't wait for MSN to come up with their own version of AdSence – will switch instantaneously even at a loss!

[Chico_Loco]

I know this is mostly about the 302 issue but...

I accidentally removed an entire site on Feb 19th with the Google removal system. At that time it said the removal would be in effect for 90 days. About 2 months later they changed that to say 180 days.

I emailed Google asking them if I'd be waiting 90 days, since that's what it did say, or 180. After 1 canned reply i got a legitimate response and they told me 180 days and that there was no way to get a manual re-inclusion.

In short - don't trust Google in any way when it comes to reinclusions, they simply don't give a hoot, they're too big now!

[Shurik]

Thanks for the update, Chico_Loco. I'm in the same boat since Jan 15th. You're right, at that time it said the removal would last 90 days. How unconsidered of google to change the period without accommodating those who were told 90 days.

[walkman]

I find it hard to believe that G did it this way. I mean all automated, unless they're just saying it to discourage requests. Don't block google via robots when making changes then...your competitor might just submit it for removal.

"they told me 180 days and that there was no way to get a manual re-inclusion."

[Chico_Loco]

Don't block google via robots when making changes then

I didn't - it was an employee that accidentally added a slash to a Disallow: line in robots.txt. But even at that, we swallowed our pride and said "well, we have to wait 90 days now". That 90 days morphed into 180 without any warning from Google.

The mal-entry was there in robots.txt for about 5 hours, but that's when we used their removal tool to get rid of some sensitive information.

90 days is up and we're now only half way through. I mean really - 6 months is a bit long to be waiting for such a small thing, especially when you were originally told 3.

[walkman]

Chico_Loco,
I meant it in general, not your case...