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Google's 302 Redirect Problem

         

ciml

4:17 pm on Mar 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



(Continuing from Google's response to 302 Hijacking [webmasterworld.com] and 302 Redirects continues to be an issue [webmasterworld.com])

Sometimes, an HTTP status 302 redirect or an HTML META refresh causes Google to replace the redirect's destination URL with the redirect URL. The word "hijack" is commonly used to describe this problem, but redirects and refreshes are often implemented for click counting, and in some cases lead to a webmaster "hijacking" his or her own URLs.

Normally in these cases, a search for cache:[destination URL] in Google shows "This is G o o g l e's cache of [redirect URL]" and oftentimes site:[destination domain] lists the redirect URL as one of the pages in the domain.

Also link:[redirect URL] will show links to the destination URL, but this can happen for reasons other than "hijacking".

Searching Google for the destination URL will show the title and description from the destination URL, but the title will normally link to the redirect URL.

There has been much discussion on the topic, as can be seen from the links below.

How to Remove Hijacker Page Using Google Removal Tool [webmasterworld.com]
Google's response to 302 Hijacking [webmasterworld.com]
302 Redirects continues to be an issue [webmasterworld.com]
Hijackers & 302 Redirects [webmasterworld.com]
Solutions to 302 Hijacking [webmasterworld.com]
302 Redirects to/from Alexa? [webmasterworld.com]
The Redirect Problem - What Have You Tried? [webmasterworld.com]
I've been hijacked, what to do now? [webmasterworld.com]
The meta refresh bug and the URL removal tool [webmasterworld.com]
Dealing with hijacked sites [webmasterworld.com]
Are these two "bugs" related? [webmasterworld.com]
site:www.example.com Brings Up Other Domains [webmasterworld.com]
Incorrect URLs and Mirror URLs [webmasterworld.com]
302's - Page Jacking Revisited [webmasterworld.com]
Dupe content checker - 302's - Page Jacking - Meta Refreshes [webmasterworld.com]
Can site with a meta refresh hurt our ranking? [webmasterworld.com]
Google's response to: Redirected URL [webmasterworld.com]
Is there a new filter? [webmasterworld.com]
What about those redirects, copies and mirrors? [webmasterworld.com]
PR 7 - 0 and Address Nightmare [webmasterworld.com]
Meta Refresh leads to ... Replacement of the target URL! [webmasterworld.com]
302 redirects showing ultimate domain [webmasterworld.com]
Strange result in allinurl [webmasterworld.com]
Domain name mixup [webmasterworld.com]
Using redirects [webmasterworld.com]
redesigns, redirects, & google -- oh my [webmasterworld.com]
Not sure but I think it is Page Jacking [webmasterworld.com]
Duplicate content - a google bug? [webmasterworld.com]
How to nuke your opposition on Google? [webmasterworld.com] (January 2002 - when Google's treatment of redirects and META refreshes were worse than they are now)

Hijacked website [webmasterworld.com]
Serious help needed: Is there a rewrite solution to 302 hijackings? [webmasterworld.com]
How do you stop meta refresh hijackers? [webmasterworld.com]
Page hijacking: Beta can't handle simple redirects [webmasterworld.com] (MSN)

302 Hijacking solution [webmasterworld.com] (Supporters' Forum)
Location: versus hijacking [webmasterworld.com] (Supporters' Forum)
A way to end PageJacking? [webmasterworld.com] (Supporters' Forum)
Just got google-jacked [webmasterworld.com] (Supporters' Forum)
Our company Lisiting is being redirected [webmasterworld.com]

This thread is for further discussion of problems due to Google's 'canonicalisation' of URLs, when faced with HTTP redirects and HTML META refreshes. Note that each new idea for Google or webmasters to solve or help with this problem should be posted once to the Google 302 Redirect Ideas [webmasterworld.com] thread.

<Extra links added from the excellent post by Claus [webmasterworld.com]. Extra link added thanks to crobb305.>

[edited by: ciml at 11:45 am (utc) on Mar. 28, 2005]

joeduck

9:08 pm on May 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Shurik -

We are awaiting results too after our reinclusion request for many pages lost with a loss of huge traffic Feb 3. Much spidering by Gbot since then but traffic still down 90+%. Google and certainly GG are not to blame here - rather the increasing number of blackhat SEO firms who force them to spend enormous money and time simply removing crap.

walkman

10:01 pm on May 2, 2005 (gmt 0)



"URLs with spaces are indexed with "%20" but the removal tool doesn't recognize these URLs, presumably because it cannot find the pages."

put them in robtos.txt, 50 at a time. Of course tripple check it for
Disallow: /

zeus

10:11 pm on May 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Walkman - check for Disallow: / Is a GREAT idea I got in that trap, but I must say I have given up on google,

joeduck

10:37 pm on May 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Zeus - what "trap" do you mean?

Caution to all:
The following line in yoursite.com/robots.txt will completely remove your site and all pages from Google index (as well as the other search engines):

Disallow: /

zeus

10:57 pm on May 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



I mean, I also once forgot the Disallow: /
so be careful.

twebdonny

10:57 pm on May 2, 2005 (gmt 0)



No words on the reinclusion request here either.

We did have a reply when we wrote in about
the hijacker pages though.

arubicus

11:04 pm on May 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



No word either. Was contacted for more information about other problems we were having. No reply yet on that of course (none expected). Shortly after the reinclusion request we seen some heavy crawling but as of late it hasn't been quite so heavy. Seen about 400 pages return but waiting on the home page to return to the index and waiting for few thousand more pages to get crawled.

walkman

11:17 pm on May 2, 2005 (gmt 0)



to those expecting a word: it doesn't mean that they haven't received, or even acted on it. I think it's great that GG joined the thread and offered specific advice and help but to expect a reply might be asking too much. Googleguy rules for doing this, (even though we disagree on a few things ;)). I have screwed my site up so badly trying to "fix it" is not even funny. Just re-did the entire thing from scratch, allowed Google back in and let's hope.

Today GB has asked for 300+ pages (so far), all are 404s so far since i changed the url format but eventually the new pages will kick in.

Panacea

11:31 pm on May 2, 2005 (gmt 0)



walkman,

Why do you think its asking too much to expect a reply?

walkman

11:38 pm on May 2, 2005 (gmt 0)



"Why do you think its asking too much to expect a reply? "

because they aren't setup that way to go back and forth.
Why was I penalized?
A: because of XXXX
But I did it because of this, it isn't so bad, is not fair, blah blah...

This way the avoid all that..if they need more info, they'll post here or ask you via the e-mail.

don't get me wrong, it would great, but it's too much and counter-productive for them to deal with.

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