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NEST, EPIC, FTC--GOV gets involved?

     
8:08 pm on Feb 22, 2019 (gmt 0)

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Following Google's acknowledgement that it made a mistake by failing to mention that its Nest Guard alarm hub includes a microphone, the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC) has asked the US Federal Trade Commission (FTC) to force the ad biz to sell its Nest division and surrender data snarfed from Nest customers.

Privacy issues (and some law breaking, too) to be addressed.

The public relations for g continues to take a downturn turn...
2:02 am on Apr 26, 2019 (gmt 0)

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Would still like to see an open investigation into this matter to see exactly what Google intended to do with the microphone and if it had already collected any data. When you design a product you don't accidentally design in and manufacture an additional component without it serving a purpose.

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Not sure if anyone noticed, but people don't seem to care about this. This wouldn't be the first time when complacency leads to problems down the road. The public certainly doesn't seem to care. Sounds like a bunch of nobodies trying to change the world. There is no outcry over this. Hard to get people to listen when it's not making headlines.
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Apparent source of material quoted in OP is an article in the Register UK, published in February....

EPIC demand: It's time for Google to fly the Nest after 'forgetting' to mention home alarm hub has built-in mic
Ad giant must divorce IoT subsidiary, privacy warriors tell sleepy watchdog
22 Feb 2019

[theregister.co.uk...]

From the article...
The two privacy advocates argue the FTC should have conducted a more rigorous review before allowing Google to acquire Nest and suggest the proper course is to break the two apart....

...Rotenberg and Bannan muse that it's unclear whether Google, hackers, or others may have activated the undisclosed mics to listen in on consumers.

No one has made such a claim, and it wouldn't be easy to active the mic since there's no public API for it. The same possibility exists for all the known mics in consumer environments, on phones and network-connected speakers, but perhaps a Nest Guard eavesdropping scenario is worth worrying about....

...Google claims that the mics were never used prior to disclosure, which would preclude the possibility of covert data collection.

7:20 pm on Apr 28, 2019 (gmt 0)

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Not sure if anyone noticed, but people don't seem to care about this.


100% correct for so many people. They are too lazy to spend even a couple of minutes investigating how companies steal data from them about their personal habits and then sell it or use it to influence us.

It's like the George Orwell book 1984 and is even more insidious because many people agree with it without considering the consequences.

I want that App and I don't care about anything else is the general attitude.