Google Is Not Extending "Right to be Forgotten" Outside of E.U.

[engine]

Google has stated it's not going to remove pages from its global index as it's already complying with E.U. "right to be forgotten" ruling, in Europe.

Here's the obvious problem: Go from google.fr to Google .com and the entries are still in the SERPs.

It's a ludicrous agreement and should either be not at all, or world-wide.

Currently, it's "right to be forgotten" in Europe, only.

Google is only removing search results from European websites when individuals invoke their "right to be forgotten", contrary to regulators' guidelines, but will review that approach soon, the company's chief legal officer said on Monday.Google Is Not Extending "Right to be Forgotten" Outside of E.U. [in.reuters.com]

Google has consistently argued that it believes the ruling should only apply to its European websites, such as Google.de in Germany or Google.fr in France.

But the group of privacy watchdogs from EU countries, the Article 29 Working Party, concluded in November that they want search engines to scrub results globally because of the ease of switching from a European domain to Google.com.

Here's a little of the discussions, for reference.

Google Opens "Right to be Forgotten" Form For E.U. [webmasterworld.com]

EU "Right To Be Forgotten" In Action [webmasterworld.com]

Report: Google Has Removed Over 50 pct of Submissions Under EU's "Right to be Forgotten" [webmasterworld.com]

UK's House of Lords Criticises EU's "Right to be Forgotten" 'unworkable and wrong in principle' [webmasterworld.com]

[cbpayne]

I've answered your question.

No you haven't.

I asked you repeatedly what the penalty for the same crime in Europe was. You have not answered that once. If you did, please show us where you answered it?

You are singling out this case in the USA where someone was convicted and saying how great things are in Europe. If that person did the same crime in Europe, what is the penalty for it? Why can you not answer that? If you do not know the answer, why not just say so.

[nonstop]

well he faced over 100 years of jail time, but as part of a plea bargain for pleading guilty he was given 5 years. but that's the US justice for you, hang a ridiculously large sentence over someone so that they will have to take the lesser punishment as part of a 'deal'.

he didn't hack anything so he didn't commit any theft. I can't see how he could be an accessory after the fact. for posting a single link!

US law is messed up way more than any European law that seeks to protect it's citizens privacy.

[nonstop]

No you haven't.

I asked you repeatedly what the penalty for the same crime in Europe was. You have not answered that once. If you did, please show us where you answered it?

You are singling out this case in the USA where someone was convicted and saying how great things are in Europe. If that person did the same crime in Europe, what is the penalty for it? Why can you not answer that? If you do not know the answer, why not just say so.

I'm going to say this for the LAST time.

THERE IS NO PENALTY IN EUROPE FOR POSTING A SINGLE LINK THAT HAS BEEN POSTED BY JOURNALISTS MANY MANY TIMES BEFORE.

if you can prove me wrong please do so, please show me a previous case and the written law.

[Samizdata]

I can assure you that there are serious penalties in Europe for being an accessory to data theft, for interfering with the execution of a search warrant, and for threatening anyone, not least a law enforcement officer.

Your hero pleaded guilty to all three charges.

There is no legal penalty, however, for posting nonsensical off topic distractions that derail threads on web forums.

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[cbpayne]

THERE IS NO PENALTY IN EUROPE FOR POSTING A SINGLE LINK THAT HAS BEEN POSTED BY JOURNALISTS MANY MANY TIMES BEFORE.

But that is NOT what he was convicted of!

As Samizdata said, he would have been convicted and penalized of teh same thing if he was in Europe. You really not getting this and keep "barking up the wrong tree"

[nonstop]

unfortunately you are wrong posting a single hyper link does not make you an accessory to data theft in europe, if you can prove me wrong please feel free to do so

[Samizdata]

posting a single hyper link does not make you an accessory to data theft in europe

And it doesn't in USA either.

You keep claiming that the guy was "given 5 years for posting a link" but two minutes use of a search engine will show that any such claim is complete and utter nonsense that has no basis in fact.

Source: Electronic Frontier Foundation

he pleaded guilty to three crimes: being an accessory after the fact to the unauthorized access to Stratfor’s computers; interfering with the execution of a search warrant by hiding a laptop; and, most seriously, threatening an FBI agent.

Source: Rolling Stone

Barrett Brown has been sentenced to 63 months in federal prison, which include the 28 months he has already served, after pleading guilty to transmitting threats, aiding hackers and obstructing authorities from carrying out a search warrant.

Source: Wired

According to the government Brown worked to create confusion about the hacker’s identity “in a manner that diverted attention away from the hacker,” which included communicating with Stratfor after the hack in a way that authorities say drew attention away from the hacker.

The guy pleaded guilty to three serious crimes, none of which had anything to do with posting a hyperlink, most of his sentence was for threatening an FBI agent, and he wasn't even busted for his admitted use of heroin.

He would be in jail in just about any country on the planet.

And his case has no relevance whatsoever to the subject of this thread.

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[nonstop]

you conveniently forgot to mention that he faced over 100 years in jail but was dropped as part of a plea bargain.


theguardian.com

He will reportedly be eligible for supervised release after one year, and once released will have his computer equipment monitored. The $890,250 in restitution payments will go to Stratfor and other companies targeted by Anonymous

Gallagher warned that the long sentence would nonetheless set a precedent for journalists. “Basically,” he said, “if you share a link to publicly available material without knowing what’s in it – maybe it could contain stolen credit card info – you could be prosecuted.”

theregister.co.uk

FBI-baiter Barrett Brown gets five years in chokey plus $890,000 fine

In a plea bargain arranged last March the government agreed to drop most of the charges against Brown relating to his posting of the hyperlink. But the remaining charges stuck, and now he's off to prison until 2019 at the latest, although he'll be eligible for parole in a year.

[Samizdata]

He pleaded guilty to the crimes he was convicted of.

None of them had anything to do with the EU "Right to be Forgotten", which we are discussing here.

If you want to publicise his case you are going about it in a particularly ineffective way.

But given that he admits he is guilty as charged, I can't see why you bother.

I'll leave you with the words of your junkie hero himself:

I'm going to ruin his life and look into his f***ing kids.

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[erick3000]

you are all forgetting that if he hadn't posted the links none of that would've happened. So yes if you resume the story he got locked up for posting a link....

[Samizdata]

"Journalist gets 5 years in jail for posting a link."

A great headline, but nonsense on stilts.

The guy was a part of (and spokesman for) a hacking group that stole massive amounts of data.

He got 4 years for publicly threatening an FBI agent.

He got 1 year for being an accessory to data theft.

He got three months for interfering with a search warrant.

He pleaded guilty to all these crimes and was not jailed for "posting a link" .

The indictment and the threats themselves are freely available online.

"when I say [the FBI agent's] life is over, I don't say I'm going to kill him, but I am going to ruin his life and look into his f***ing kids."

If that is journalism, I'm a banana.

Either way, it has zero relevance to this thread.

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[tangor]

Will Barnes send a request to google to forget him in Europe?

Is the sky blue?

Do diatoms swim in water?

Give it a break kiddies!