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At the time, Google said it only collected "fragments" of personal Web traffic as it passed by, because its Wi-Fi equipment automatically changes channels five times a second. However, with Wi-Fi networks operating at up to 54Mbps, it always seemed likely that those one-fifth of a second recordings would contain more than just "fragments" of personal data.
That has now been confirmed by CNIL, which since June 4 has been examining Wi-Fi traffic and other data provided by Google on two hard disks and over a secure data connection to its servers.
"It's still too early to say what will happen as a result of this investigation," CNIL said Thursday.
"However, we can already state that [...] Google did indeed record email access passwords [and] extracts of the content of email messages," CNIL said.
... according to the French National Commission on Computing and Liberty (CNIL)
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@kaled, was someone actually prosecuted and convicted in the situation you refer to? I'd be curious to know more about it.
Just remember the next time you hand your CC or a check to someone to pay a bill and don't watch them for every second you gave them much more plain, readable data than a WiFi connection does, so if something happens to it, it's definitely your fault for not taking every precaution, and I hope you don't ever misplace your wallet, because that would definitely be your fault if something got misused from your own lack of attention...
Those who defend Google here
that's probably already being done without Google so this really is a moot thread
one of the most disappointing things for me is the slowness of the law people to react
Many computers users who set up home networks don't have the technical skill or IT background to setup up WEP/WPA.
I still believe in personal responsibility. The notion that it isn't someone's fault because they lack the technical ability to use something they bought properly is insane.
I'd be interested to hear your thoughts about what the limitations ought to be and how they should be enforced.
The man arrested in a street in west London is at least the third person to be accused of breaching the law by taking internet service without permission.
[edited by: TheMadScientist at 7:47 pm (utc) on Jun 21, 2010]
I am also reacting to the fact that in a free country like the USA and Canada the rules are simple. You can listen in to any broadcast in the public airwaves, you just can't circumvent any security or encryption to do so.I was under the impression that using a scanner in the US to monitor police activity was illegal (though I imagine it's all digital and encrypted these days).
I think a lot of people are being a little bit coy by referring to people who know how to secure a wi-fi network and those who don't as smart or stupid
It's actually my understanding, in the US, you can listen to a transmission made openly, but what you cannot do is record, rebroadcast, reuse, or otherwise disseminate....
[edited by: Demaestro at 8:18 pm (utc) on Jun 21, 2010]
I wouldn't call someone who doesn't know how to secure their network stupid.
He bought a router and simple plugged it in and left it. Is he an idiot?
p.s Joe Blogs is a doctor.. Is he still an idiot?
they are still protected by the law (in certain countries). and at the end of the day that is all that matters
your arguments wouldn't carry any weight at all if it came up in court
all you are doing is looking down on people who don't know how the equipment works.
it sounds like you're pining after the wild west, where the big guys can just ride into town and take advantage of all the little people who don't take the time to secure their stuff
What I want is the people in town to not be people who can be taken advantage of.
Google is facing prosecution in France after ‘accidentally’ scooping up masses of personal information while compiling its Street View service.
The US internet giant spent months driving around the country’s streets as it built up a map, recording wi-fi hotspots along the way so as to list local services.
But it also recorded emails, browsing histories and other highly sensitive information including bank details and medial records.
As many as 30 states could join an investigation into Google Inc.'s collection of personal information from unprotected wireless networks, Connecticut's attorney general said today.
I would call someone stupid who hooks up wireless Internet after ignoring all the warnings messages, knowing full well they don't know what they are doing, makes no attempt to get help or research into it, and sets it up anyway, then goes and does online banking using their open connection.
All those people who Google sniffed are still out there joyfully broadcasting their info feeling safe because their country has a law to protect them, so they need not take steps to protect themselves.