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Google Inc. is snapping up YouTube Inc. for $1.65 billion in a deal that catapults the Internet search leader to a starring role in the online video revolution.The all-stock deal announced Monday unites one of the Internet's marquee companies with one of its rapidly rising stars. It came just hours after YouTube unveiled three agreements with media companies in an apparent bid to escape the threat of copyright-infringement lawsuits.
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Pretend that they just spent 1.7 billion in marketing google video except that they are almost guaranteed to keep the large number of boobtube visitors unless they screw something up.
BTW, to compare to a similar acquisition of eyeballs and predict if it was a good or bad move, does anyone know, has blogger.com lost any viewership since acquired or has google's "addons" improved viewership? Further, did they make money on the purchase due to adsense or lose money?
That 1.6 billion valuation then means,,,, very little if the acquisition doesn't build value equal to whathe present valuation is
Is google really worth more than ,,,, say P&O , the cruise company, well according to stock price,,,,,
But time will tell,
I hope some one will pay me that kinda cash for my websites , soon :-) :-)
I do I do.
> What about youtube is worth 1.5 billion?
Umm, ok - I give!? Could it be the 60-100 million page views a day?
> why is google video worth so much less?
Because no one knows it is there and their algo for putting related stuff in your face - well - it sucks.
Hmmm... I wonder what our old buddy Marc Cuban has to say about this today..hehe - go mavs!
Only because they got taken over, not because they had a profitable business model. You can't build a sustainable business with that kind of plan.
There's been high profile billion dollar takeover after another, usually with one established dotcom buying a new unprofitable one, and they usually fail to justify themselves even years down the line.
--Umm, ok - I give!? Could it be the 60-100 million page views a day?--
But the expense of delivering the video, not to say the potential lawsuits and/or profit-sharing involving copyright owners, outweighs the possible revenue from pageviews.
[edited by: gibbergibber at 9:50 pm (utc) on Oct. 9, 2006]
It has to be a good deal, unless the punters all jump ship tomorrow, and they won't; the lionger Google can keep ahead of new sites in this field, the more cash they'll make.
And the prospects of much more free video - legal free video - makes this a good deal for us too.
It's clear from the parellel deals with cbs, universal, warner et al., that the business model is advertising and free downloads. Would M$N have dared to apply that model? Not a hope!
Google, the company, will either make a lot off cash or
alternatively, it, google the company , will lose not much cash if things go the other way,
But hey you ask, what about the 1.6 billion dollars
i just had an interesting thought, I just realised that the people who use youtube probably don't already use Google, what a thought, they use youtube as their search engine,or perhaps yahoo/msn/ask
So google paid 1.6billion for new users, who currently don't use google
This is great actually, high drama, big players , big dollars
An, great motivation to all off us to go make something as original as ,,, youtube
Agggh, i'm green with envy, anyone got some original idea's to give away :-)
Put it another way, when msn messenger joined connections with yahoo messenger, did their combined use base qual their individual user bases added directly,
msn 30mill + yahoo35mill = combined 65mill ?
I just invented those figures above!
> who thinks this is a good idea?I do I do.
I do for the traffic, it's a huge win in that dept.
I don't as a stockholder unless the copyright issues of YouTube can be quickly addressed as the infringement lawsuits are starting to stack up.
I don't for the price paid, it's crazy DOT COM BUBBLE pricing all over again and so far Google has been a very stable investment but this leaves me thinking their stock has just become highly volatile, escpecially if they can't squeeze money out of YouTube.
What's the YouTube game plan, slap AdSense all over the place?
[edited by: incrediBILL at 10:19 pm (utc) on Oct. 9, 2006]
And G stock jumped what - $500m since the rumors started floating last week.
So, that brings the purchase price down to $1.1b so far. How far will it go down tomorrow? By the time GOOG settles on the markets - G won't take a dollar out of their pocket and the stock is already accouting for itself in the marketplace.
Just because YouTube is popular doesn't make it profitable. Lot's of popular and cool sites vaporized a few years back because they gave everything away and tried to make it up on volume, hope this isn't one of those things.
Only one thing we can do is sit back and wait to see how this plays out in the months to come.
[edited by: incrediBILL at 10:49 pm (utc) on Oct. 9, 2006]
How fast do you think the loyal YouTube folks will head elsewhere when that happens? You're already changing its appeal.
>> I just heard it was 100% stock
And G stock jumped what - $500m since the rumors started floating last week.So, that brings the purchase price down to $1.1b so far. How far will it go down tomorrow? By the time GOOG settles on the markets - G won't take a dollar out of their pocket.
I don't think it works that way. If they issue stock to purchase YouTube, then they dilute earnings and shareholders should be ticked-off.
If they purchase shares on the open market, they still have to pay market price - which is $1.6 billion. The only difference is they purchase fewer shares.
napster story in short:
- founded as a revolutionary p2p file sharing tool in 1998 by shawn fanning
- fastest growing internet community at that time. peak time in 2001 with 38 million users
- purchased by bertelsmann for 80 million dollar. premise was to transform it to a legal download platform
- other platforms like kazaa and edonkey gaining user favor and taking up leadership in file sharing
- napster sued to death by record companies because of former copyright violations. finally got busted and turned-off
- brand name bought up by a software company. by now one among a crowd of moderately successful music download platforms
i just had an interesting thought, I just realised that the people who use youtube probably don't already use Google, what a thought, they use youtube as their search engine,or perhaps yahoo/msn/ask
I don't think this is necessarily true. YouTube is a young company. G was around long before it. Why would someone using G switch engines just because they started using YouTube? Searching ("googling") is a habit developed over time.