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Certainly in our sectors its dire, sorry but sites with five or less pages, bloggs, thin content, sites with urls keyword-keyword-keyword-keyword.com etc should not even be listed imo
Meanwhile quality sites with more than 10,000 pages cant even get the pages fully spidered by msn due to its search bot crawling issues
Im looking at search results where its 12+ before we see anything quality ranking.
The msn SERPS are a total write off imo
It's ofcourse possible that these results are not final, but right now too many random sites are listed high on some good keywords. It almost looks like they were hand picked.. I don't believe these results are going to stay.
I still msn will be reverting or going forward, this can not be the "real" net. It will be a step of a cliff for msn.
IMO MSN should switch things back to what they were before (search.arabia.msn.com), the spam in competive markets is not as bad because spamers usually drive traffic to pretty relevant results.
MSN should not focus on how to get high money keywords spam free, they should focus much more how to deliver good results in the brought range!
It may be that they bungled the first clearly positive thing they have ever done (since replacing their first alpha results with their second alpha results) because of that 100 million thing, but it is good to see some progress from MSN... the arabia results are much better than the old garbage or the muched up ones on msn.com now.
Just confirming what I said before in the thread these guys emphasize spam in the most basic form: hyphenated URL's, blogs, doorways, sub domains - I use to support the MSN search project but really are these guys really working on it? Clusty has better results with 0.001% of the budget involved at MS.
Is there really PHD's and a whole bunch of scientists and marketers working on it or is this a joke?
the reason why I am saying that is because they managed to go backward to SERP's fooled by the most basic type of spam which is supposed to be eradicated for 3 years now.
msn should consider setting up couple more datacenters like google does/has.. if a new update isnt good then revert back to the previous results... or have a couple of datasets and compare the 2 results for performance. if a new dataset stinks then take it offline and see what happened.
i agree with the others, blogspot and subdomain
spammers/blog comment spammers still do well. their update on thurs. seemed to partially fix this, but now as of monday its as bad as ever.
i thought they had better results up until around early feb.. and the previous year was much better then it is today. I think they've taken steps backwards with the past 2-3 updates.
Too many talks about subdomain should not take up the top positions...this is really absurd.
Most of my keywords dropped their ranking position (as much as 5 pages down) too, together with my major competitors (large companies). I hope the update isn't finished yet because most of the results I see are still poorer than before.
No it isn't. A top five of this is lousy results
especially if all five of those are duplicate pages.
Two results per domain. Zero extra benefit for keywords in subdomain. Poof, serps are instantly better.
Not strange ... I lost my good rankings and if it wasn't because of this thread I would never have noticed the very small difference in the number of visitors to my site.
Conclusion: Not a lot of people are using MSN search.