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My Website Position dropped suddenly in MSN

MSN Ranking dropped

     
11:53 am on May 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi friends,

Till last week my website was #20 position in msn search today it has been dropped to #40 position. We have made little changes as per SEO.

Can anybody help me in finding why this is happening what might be the reason.

10:03 am on July 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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MSN obviously making some changes. In Beta and for a while after most of my sites were ranked in top 5 -- then, they seemed to drop like a rock a few weeks ago. I just threw up my hands and made NO changes. Now I noticed more traffic from MSN and looked at my positions and I have quite a few #1 positions and more sites on 1st page of MSN search. Big swings down and now up again.

For the keywords I'm checking the domain names for my sites are the keywords I've aimed at, and these are the ones that have moved back to top or at least on 1st page. So I'm assuming the domain name has effect on the positions.

But then I've been gaining inbound links too.

I've lost a lot of ground at Yahoo where I had great rankings (with no changes on my pages)

I had given up on Google, and now the past few weeks Google seems to like me again.

Whatever this SEO science is, it escapes me lol

12:08 pm on July 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It escapes EVERYONE, probably even G themselves. I don't even think they know what's going on. They've opened Pandora's box with this latest.....uhhhhh,.... "update".
4:05 am on July 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I think part of the up & down with MSN as of late is that they tend to have a quick window in terms of their spider and subsequent indexing.

I know my first flood of pages in MSN (8-10K pages worth) were around for a bit and then gradually reduced down to about 300 over a 1.5 week period. All this time, MSN spider was spidering tons of new pages. I am back up to 5-6K pages now for a few days and as of yesterday, the counts are slowly starting to drop again.

A pity really. The tighter window used to be a godsend but now it just plain sucks with the algorithm changes over the last month.

8:12 am on July 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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MSN just had a *major* algo shift a few days ago. That's just a normal part of life when deallng with search engines. Some sites climb, others fall. Nothing to get wigged out about, just "diversify for security" is the buzzword to avoid unnecessary stress.

Eggs in one basket is never a good place to be, particularly if we're not in charge of holding the handle of the basket and have no say which eggs go into the basket.

Hanging in and chilling out is the way to survive, IMHO.

7:03 am on Aug 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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MSN just had a *major* algo shift a few days ago. That's just a normal part of life when dealing with search engines. Some sites climb, others fall. Nothing to get wigged out about, just "diversify for security" is the buzzword to avoid unnecessary stress.
Eggs in one basket is never a good place to be, particularly if we're not in charge of holding the handle of the basket and have no say which eggs go into the basket.

Hanging in and chilling out is the way to survive, IMHO.

First, "nothing to get wigged out about" and "chilling out" is easy to say if you couldn't care less about SERP's and none of your sales come from them.

Second, that "diversify" and "eggs in one basket" is BS and people are sick of seeing it. For some reason, some people believe that every single niche in existence can "diversify" and get all of their sales from elsewhere other than SE's, which is NOT the case. This has been beaten through the other side of the planet. When someone needs to buy something online, they are going to go to a SE to do search for it, and there is no way around that. No one ever planned it this way, it however is a simple fact. If you are not ranking high in the SE's, you have no sales due to the fact that those needing to purchase something online are using a SE to do it! When people STOP USING SE's to purchase products, THEN one can talk about "diversify".

I also now see that MSN is no longer replying to emails sent to their previously useful address of msnbot@microsoft.com, no doubt due to thousands of complaints regarding top SERP's for sites having nothing to do with a search.

1:54 pm on Aug 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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After this recent change in algo, I still see major ups and down in SERPS. I am not able to find the problem for my site, almost all my site pages has been indexed, backlins shows 2000+, once in a week msnbot visit my site.

Anybody observing the same?

1:33 pm on Aug 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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