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Not sure what it represents...

....nor where to post it.

         

pendanticist

9:17 pm on Dec 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The other day I was digging around looking for any evidence of a new bot by the name of KnowItAll [google.com].

If you take the first link of these results and view "In The News" you will see a nearly exact replica of Google's News Page...including G's copyright logo at the bottom.

You'll notice then that the url does NOT belong to Google.

Question then becomes is this theft, or is there some News feed of which I am not privy?

The reason I do not think so is where Google has links out from the bottom of the page going to their Multi-National Search pages...they are also NOT Googles URLs.

The mod I wrote yesterday must not be around and this intrigues me...

vkaryl

10:32 pm on Dec 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hmm. Looks like a beta of a potential "branded to you" news feed. Interesting....

pendanticist

11:01 pm on Dec 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I do not know anything about feeds.

I have an Amber Alert ticker, but that is the extent of my experience.

Having said that, would these feeds include G's link-out URLs, rather than returning to the Universities servers? Looks fishy.

There is an image on the right hand side of the Universities page that does not exist on Gs, as well as other 'slightly adjusted' areas.

I am rather skeptical since a very famous University (here in the US) completely copied my work once, so what I see is very fraudulent behavior.

Anyway, this is not the only G related thing that I have no clue as to where to post. Ever heard of GoogleGuy Says [google.com]? I discovered it some weeks back.

Given that this time it is Google (and lowly, little ole me) who is being, uh, borrowed, I want to make sure my speculations are valid.

If the above is the case - so.... Copyright forum? Just does not seem to fit anywhere and at the same time may be quite serious.

Syzygy

11:02 pm on Dec 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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If you take the last link on the search results provided for KnowIt All, much is explained there...

Mystery solved?

Syzygy

pendanticist

11:04 pm on Dec 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You mean that FNF: page? The yucky yellow one?

Syzygy

11:14 pm on Dec 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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In the G results of the link you posted...

[iaslash.org...]

Interestingly, in the space of ten minutes that has now moved from the bottom of the first page, onto the top of the second page, ie, from 10th to 11th...

Syzygy

pendanticist

11:45 pm on Dec 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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<g> I took your message literally and went to G results page 10, as in the last page, not the last resource on the first page. Sorry. :) Reading some now.

This thread is already indexed. Drool....

encyclo

1:44 am on Dec 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Erm, it is trivial to do this - they've just borrowed the Google News page and are showing it locally. None of the internal links work, for example, which proves that it is not an adapted version. This is no feed, and not an experiment. I have no idea why they are doing this, though.

pendanticist

2:03 am on Dec 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thanks, encyclo. The why question is where I was the first time I saw it. That takes lotsa hootsfa whether the links work or not.

Now, you mentioned 'locally'.

Two things: One, I'm not the most literate, you meaning LAN/WAN stuff?

Second, how does locally fit any acceptible use policy G, may, or may not have?

If they are indeed funded by G and that other group, I must say it extremely stupid to put up a page like that. And, when posted here both pages contained the same current news events.

Just strikes me as awfully bodacious of anyone who, uh, borrows a page from the very folks who are funding you.

Just seems too odd to be outright copyright infringement material... but still...

encyclo

8:12 pm on Dec 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Now, you mentioned 'locally'.

If you've got PHP, create a page which includes this one line:

<?php include "http://news.google.com/";?>

Voilą, local Google News under your own URL. It's not permitted by Google, of course, and the internal links won't work. Luckily for them, Google News uses absolute URLs for the images, or they wouldn't work either. If they wanted the page to work perfectly (but with the internal links sent to the right page on the Google server, not on theirs), they could add:

<base href="http://news.google.com/">

before the PHP include line. Do I need to emphasize again not to do this on a live site?

As I said, the only question is why they are loading the Google News page instead of their project?

vkaryl

8:13 pm on Dec 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Maybe it's a student webmaster, and heesh didn't get the setup right?