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2:42 pm on Feb 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Likely to be any brown beer nearby? Don't want to fly across the globe to drink under-strength fizz and nothing but.
2:59 pm on Feb 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Nearby where? I have some beer at home...

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Ummm... I wouldn't keep your fingers crossed. Last time I went to a store in Florida to try and buy beer, I had to settle for a 6pack of Guinness, and the beer selection in a chain-hotel bar is never good. Even the hotel in London had a truly sad selection of taps... I'm not holding out much hope for Orlando.

They may have classy imports like Grolsch though. ;-)

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where are you?

you won't find beer in the states that is more than 6% unless you are at a specialty restaurant or brewery.

look for 'samuel smiths', it is available nationally.
have you ever tried hard cider? i hate it but it's a bit stronger and some people love it.

too bad the 'brooklyn monster' isn't widely available!

i'm drinking a 'yuengling lager' right now, very good not very strong.

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Has anyone carried beer in carry-on luggage to the US? How many cans fit in the allowable quota?
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Try Ol' Number 7- an American classic
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look for 'samuel smiths', it is available nationally?

Samuel adams?

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Ah well, pretty much what I guessed. So none of these micro-breweries I've heard about, then?

It's not that I'm looking for super-strength stuff - far too old for that - just wondering if all that's on offer is likely to be 3.5% fizzy yellow water. Not that that doesn't have a place in the sun, but I was kind of hoping to have a good pint of brown beer - don't even have time for that during the connection at London.

As for cider - grew up in a part of England that produced something called Green Monkey - cider that would make you blind if you drank it for years. Weaned on that, find it hard to drink much, if any cider these days.

Ol' Number 7 - what's that then?

Thanks.

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Since Brett lives in Austin nowadays maybe he could bring a keg of that brownish Shiner Bock brew?
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Aha - now this is a FOO topic not discussed enough ;)

I have heard that you get excellent microbreweries in the US. I did have the luxury of trying a few, of the few, in and around berkely sanfrancisco and marin county once.

But for real ale I think Orlando would be a non starter.

Mivox - you like Grolsch? I'm surprised - maybe the import you get in the US is better than the sour stuff we get on tap in pubs in the UK.

The finest lager I have tasted was from a family owned brewery in Kinsale Southeren Ireland - 4 or 5 pints of that and you *know* about it! Headdy stuff with a subtle honey aftertaste.

Is a dream of mine to run my own brewery - the whole process is facinating (with added bonuses) - perhaps I could set up a conglomerate import/export business through WW members - seems to be quite a following for the amber nectar here.

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<<Ol' Number 7 - what's that then? >>

Jack Daniels Tenessee Whiskey :)

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> Shiner Bock brew

Except that it's mass produced and probably brownish due to food coloring, rather than tasty beer ingredients.

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Samuel Smith's is good beer

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Nah, if I was going to drink Bourbon, it'd be Makers Mark, but I don't. Still, my wife's Scots, so I'll match you pint for pint on a real whisky - say Caol Ila, Bowmore or Highland Park 25, deal?

Nope, I'll stick to beer and maybe some top-shelf Zinfandel - will the local 7/11 stock Ridge?

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so I'll match you pint for pint on a real whisky

Pints of whiskey - thats what they call tots - right ;)

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You should be able to find a nice Negra Modelo in Orlando... it's a light brown, but still brown.
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try anchor steam--that is a beer with substance.

like samuel smiths it is available nationally, a bit pricier than the yellow 3.5 fiz but well worth it.

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Yes Americans drink what I call fortified water, and
the draft is even worst. The Americans generally have
higher proof hard liquor than Canada, but nobody every explained why the 'Greatest Nation on Earth', has the world's wimpiest beer.
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It takes a real man to drink wimpy beer. Wanna arm rassle?
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>>wimpiest beer

Marketing. Make it half as potent, sell twice as much.

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>> Yes Americans drink what I call fortified water

Not all of us. We have our fair share of some durn fine micro-breweries here in the States and they have a fine body and flavor. Samuel Adams is ok but has slipped some since going mainstream. Magic Hat, Otter Creek, Anchor Steam, Pete's, Geary's ... yum.

Aw but then there's the fine small batch whiskey's. Did I hear someone say Knob Creek?

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do you guys get Speights [speights.co.nz] in the US?

Thats all we drink over here at NZ :)..you do get other stuff, but me and my mates prefer Speights..Pride of the South :)

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Mivox - you like Grolsch? I'm surprised - maybe the import you get in the US is better than the sour stuff we get on tap in pubs in the UK.

No, I don't. ;) That's my point. Don't get your hopes up for good beer in Florida.

There are more good microbreweries on the west coast of the US than you can shake a stick at, and even some in the north/northeast... but Florida, in my experience, is a microbrew/import wasteland.

And a chain hotel bar in the US or the UK, in my experience, is several notches worse than thew local stores' selection will be.

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Yep, Anchor Steam is solid. I also like Sierra Nevada, it's more bitter than Anchor Steam. I think you can get it in Florida.
(Summit and Fat Tire are great but I don't think they're available in Florida)
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Is a dream of mine to run my own brewery

Join the back of the line pal!

TJ

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Hmm... Mivox. I think I'll have to make a few phone calls.
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Personally, I prefer Hacker-Pschorr but in the entire Tampa bay area, there's only one bar that has it on draft. As far as Orlando goes... I guess I need to find out if there's a similarly equipped bar there.

(I thought packing clothes and a laptop would be sufficient planning for pubcon. I had completely forgotten about making drinking arrangements.) :)

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Personally, I prefer Hacker-Pschorr but in the entire Tampa bay area, there's only one bar that has it on draft.

Love Hacker-Pschorr and I know of at least three places in St Petersburg that have it on tap.

I read the Clarion's online bar menu and all it said was domestic beer. Although I'm American I don't drink domestic beer and am hoping that doesn't exclude imports. Don't have any use for the micro breweries either.

Re finding good imported beers and ales in the U.S. in general in most areas of Florida you can find at least Newcastle, Bass, Harp, Guiness, etc. on tap in some bars... which makes for a good black & tan anyway. However, I prefer and can find McKewans, Old Peculiar, Pilsner Urquel and other more esoteric (for America) beers and ales. There's also a Foster's bitter (dark) beer in the familiar oil can, but haven't found it in Florida. Negro Modelo's a good alternative. Notice I usually only drink dark beers and I haven't found any U.S. beers to fill the bill...yes, even Samual Adams.

Anyway, hard to imagine a PubCom (although this will be my first) in a venue devoid of good dark beers and ales. Otherwise a trip to the supermarket will be in order.

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Notice I usually only drink dark beers and I haven't found any U.S. beers to fill the bill...

yuengling porter on draft, not the bottle. this brand has become quite popular, in the northeast anyway. doubtful that it is in florida though.

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>> and I haven't found any U.S. beers to fill the bill

You, son, need an education in what the NE microbreweries have to offer! :) We have a few darkies up here that'd knock your socks off. Magic Hat's 'Heart of Darkness' comes to mind as does Otter Creek's 'Stovepipe Porter'.

Geesh, maybe I'll just bring a couple six-pack samplers.

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