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Geographic question

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Triple_H

11:41 pm on Jul 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi,
Could anyone tell me which continent does the Middle East belong to? Is the Middle East the same as Western Asia? Thanks to anyone who replys..

mivox

11:44 pm on Jul 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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North East Africa and South West Asia, if I'm not mistaken...

juniperwasting

1:30 am on Jul 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I think all of it is in asia, Eygpt is kinda middle east, and that one is on Africa...

ggrot

2:18 am on Jul 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Middle East is a reasonably big area that includes multiple nations in both asia and africa.

Skylo

8:10 am on Jul 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Speaking from what I have learnt through the years of being in africa: Of all the middle east Egypt is the only one that is declared northern africa territory but they participate in the happenings of the middle east( part of asia ) as they have lingual and cultural ties.

Sinner_G

8:17 am on Jul 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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From Encyclopedia.com [encyclopedia.com]:

term traditionally applied by western Europeans to the countries of SW Asia and NE Africa lying W of Afghanistan, Pakistan, and India. Thus defined it includes Cyprus, the Asian part of Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Israel, the West Bank and Gaza, Jordan, Iraq, Iran, the countries of the Arabian peninsula (Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Oman, United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait), and Egypt and Libya. The area was viewed as midway between Europe and East Asia (traditionally called the Far East ). The term is sometimes used in a cultural sense to mean the group of lands in that part of the world predominantly Islamic in culture, thus including the remaining states of N Africa as well as Afghanistan and Pakistan. In the 20th cent. the Middle East has been the scene of political turmoil and major warfare, including World War I, World War II, the Arab-Israeli Wars , the Iran-Iraq War and the Persian Gulf War .

So basically yes, mostly Asia and a bit of Africa.

choster

2:43 pm on Jul 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Western Asia is called "Europe" :).

copongcopong

2:26 am on Jul 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Its under Asia. We used to have a course in my high school days which is "Asia" and we studied Mesopotamia (which is now Iraq) etc ...

:-)

Sinner_G

6:18 am on Jul 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Western Asia is called "Europe"

So the US would be a colony of Western Asia? ;)

bilalak

10:41 am on Jul 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The Middle east is only a part of Asia. It includes most Arab countries in Asia. the origin of the name comes from European countries where they divided the East into 3 regions (Close East, middle east, and far east). literally it is South West Asia

So it is basically the region from Suez canal to turkey and then from Mediterranean sea to the Persian Gulf.

Egypt is not from middle east but it is from North Africa.

claus

11:40 am on Jul 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The Europe part is not that far off now with Turkey being part of EU.
/claus

Sinner_G

12:11 pm on Jul 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Egypt is not from middle east but it is from North Africa.

Have to disagree there. Encyclopedia.com (quoted above) says it is Middle East and Encyclopedia Britannica even extends Middle East to Morocco.

Even the Middle East Media Research Institute [memri.org] counts Egypt, and the Middle East Times' [metimes.com] description tag reads 'News from Egypt and the region.

JudgeJeffries

2:26 pm on Jul 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The Turks crow about Istambul being half in Europe and half in Asia so take it from there.

choster

2:41 pm on Jul 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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BBC News considers Libya part of the Middle East, but not Algeria. The Harvard University Department of Near Eastern Languages and Civilizations includes Armenia, but not Afghanistan.

The National Geographic Society regards "Mideast" as "an unofficial and imprecise term that now generally encompasses the lands around the southern and eastern shores of the Mediterranean Sea, notably Libya, Egypt, Jordan, Israel, Lebanon, and Syria, as well as Iran, Iraq, and the countries of the Arabian Peninsula. The term was formerly used by Western geographers and historians to describe the region from the Persian Gulf to S.East Asia."

Really, it's however you want to define it. What is North America? Well it could be the land mass that extends from the north pole to the isthmus of Panama, or it could mean the members of NAFTA, or it could mean only Anglo-America (i.e. Canada and the U.S., begging the pardon of Quebec). Similarly, English speakers-- Brits more than Americans, I find-- use "America" synonymously with the United States, whereas non-native speakers have been accustomed to using that name for the whole of the New World and consider the other usage a bit of pretension.

bilalak

4:37 am on Jul 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi
Maybe some encyclopedias are using different terminology but I am insisting that Middle east is only the part beyong suez Canal. Egypt and some other countries are in North Africa. MENA ( Middle East and North Africa) would contain both countries and this is widely used now for Middle east also. Lybia, Morocco are part of Arabi Magrib (Arabic Ouest)

:D

Sinner_G

6:49 am on Jul 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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some encyclopedias

Yeah, some pretty unknown encyclopedias, like britannica, I mean who cares about what the most widely known and respected encyclopedia says :).

And by the way, Webster says the same thing. And I still believe the Middle East Times should know what region they talk about in their paper...

I won't say that Egypt is not part of Northern Africa, as it obviously is, but it is ALSO part of the Middle East.

choster

2:56 pm on Jul 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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bilabak, my point was that there is no singular authority on this matter. "Middle East" in literal terms is simply the middle part of the East. The precise definition of it, or of most regions, will reflect the writer's perception of the extent of similarity of inter-influenced cultures, related ethnicities, and physical and social geography to some core or baseline.

Think about the varying and changing definitions of "Europe"-- I know of Azeris and Armenians who complain that since they are west of the Urals, their countries ought to be considered European. Many Poles, traditionally part of the core of Eastern Europe, view themselves as members of Western Europe who have simply had some unfortunate history. Whatever happened to Mitteleuropa, one might ask?

And for the record, the United Nations Economic and Social Commission for Western Asia covers Egypt, which is obviously in Africa.

Don't get hung up on it. Pick one definition and stick with it.