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Norton interferes with disc defrag

     

vmwmack

3:56 pm on Jun 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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How do you shut off Norton Internet Security 2003 to do a
disc defrag? I disabled them--still interferes with my
disc defrag.
3:58 pm on June 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Well I would hit Ctrl-Alt-Del to see all processes running, and then kill the ones related to Norton. But this thread is going to get edited off anyway because it's just a little off topic....
4:05 pm on June 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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you can also try windows safe mode startup.
4:07 pm on June 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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what has this got to do with Google News?
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what has this got to do with Google News?

vmwmack's in charge of the Google data center servers.

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Maybe this is the reason that google is having problems this update. They are migrating to windows.
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>>They are migrating to windows.

And installing Front Page Extensions.

Sorry vmwmack, this was just too good to resist.

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>>And installing Front Page Extensions.

Google programmed in Visual Basic?

Ok Enough. :P

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I *think* you can do alt-ctrl-delete and when the running apps come up disable everything but systray, and that should do it. No expert here, but the worst thing that will happen if it's wrong is to reboot - no problem.
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>>I *think* you can do alt-ctrl-delete and when the running apps come up disable everything but systray

I'm not sure that's good advice for the inexperienced ;)
You should also leave 'explorer' in that list well alone too. End-tasking some (badly written) programs can leave them in a state that they find it hard to recover from ;)

A safer measure (on most win systems) is to go to start>>run and type msconfig

You should see a tab saying 'startup' where you should be able to disable all the Norton entries. Reboot, run defrag, and when it's finished tick the norton items again. And while you're there disable all the unwanted crap that has built up :)

You can get some nifty standalone startup utlities (there's one on Mike Lin's homepage (google for it) I can recommend where you can safely stop programs from running at startup, then re-enable them.

One final thing - make sure you have turned off power saving/standby before you do the defrag.

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pixel_juice, all that does is stop programs from running at the moment. Even I can do that and I don't get into config or other system files - at all. They start right up again next time I boot.
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Are you sure its Norton and not something else? Anytime I do a disk defrag, I make sure that I don't have my monitor set to go to sleep after 10/15 minutes. I also make sure that the hard drive is not set to got to sleep. Both of these will interfere with a disk defrag.

P.S. If you have any routines that are set to run automatically, they will also interfere. I would check your scheduled tasks to make sure those are suspended until after the defrag. Check your Windows Update task if there is one. I think the default is something like check every 5 minutes! ;)

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>>pixel_juice, all that does is stop programs from running at the moment

Sorry, I thought that was what vmwmack wanted to do?

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stop all the services running including anything talking via the internet, and all services for apps. Regarding what neds to run.

What Operating system are you running NAV under?

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pixel_juice is right and that is the only method that works on my computer it closes off all programmes and allows the defrag and scan disk to work without problem. Safe Mode does not even let me do this.

although what I do is run msconfig then click the selective box (under the general tab) and de select all the options, except ProcessWinStart.bat file you will need to restart your comp and you can then run scan disk and NAV/NIS 2003 without a hitch.

Add in - Once it is finished go back to the Start menu, run msconfig and then click on the normal box under the general tab. You then need to restart again and the comp is back to normal.