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11:47 pm on Jan 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member digitalghost is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



I assume this in part a response to the dog shooting thread? ;)

>>Topics related to computers and internet

That narrows FOO down quite a bit if you mean that in a strict sense. No posts about grilling then? Or Tea? Or do you mean nothing that would possibly arouse the ire of anyone? Like cops and dog lovers? Benign banter as opposed to serious discussion?

11:51 pm on Jan 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The only new part is the section about removing chatty posts from the active list, dg... ;) We've never been "supposed" to talk about race, gender, religion, politics, tea or grilling. But if a topic is friendly enough, it's generally give a reprieve from the strict "internet related" rule.
11:56 pm on Jan 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Why is there no Shakil rule?
When Shak posts, the thread will continue for a minimun of 3 pages and be taken very seriously by all involved, despite the very brittish subjects.

You've gotta love it ;)

Nick

11:59 pm on Jan 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>>it's generally give a reprieve from the strict "internet related" rule.

Shewww. Thank the Gods, err, entities, or not, if you're atheist, or agnostic. ;) Anyone up for a debate on theology, the Genesis Gap theory or the implications of the Nicene Creed? J/K. Got worried there for a moment that the grilling and teas threads would end and I'd have to start looking for haute cuisine elsewhere...

12:01 am on Jan 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>>I assume this in part a response to the dog shooting thread?

I didn't think of that when I saw this thread DG, but I just did look through the active list. Go take a look and see how much there is to go through, just today - and the day isn't over yet.

I like the idea! The way I see it is that we do have a lot of 9-to-5'ers who buzz through the active list for topics related to their work. They work 8 hours and get lunch and 15 minute coffee breaks.

Foo is like the coffee pot to take breaks at, and a certain proportion sounds logical to me from the viewpoint of working people using the active and getting to what they need as quickly as possible.

When it's off-hours or break time, time to kick back, they know where to find the forum. I think it's a good idea from a member standpoint and it'll be helpful to a lot of people to strike a balance.

1:42 am on Jan 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Ya, updated it like mivox said, and as a periodic reminder of what the forum is about. I have been meaning to do this with all the charters and thought I'd start with the big Foo.
2:19 am on Jan 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'm sorry.

I'll try to be more uplifting.

I'm off for drinkies now!

:) Y

2:54 am on Jan 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Not sure what changes were made in the charter. But to me, one of the appealing things about this board is that it is so well-rounded. Many of the Foo posts serve to remind everyone that we are all individuals here and not just nicknames on a computer screen.

It would be a shame if Foo posts were pulled from the recent post lists, because many people (I suspect) only view WebmasterWorld through recent posts.

Just my opinion...

4:24 am on Jan 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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We do it quite often any more Mardi Gras. It's those threads that turn into a chat room exchange after the 200th msg and there are more important things to do and read elsewhere on the board. We are so big, we have to stay focused.
6:34 am on Jan 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I agree that Foo helps turn people from nicknames into, well, people. But I also think limiting the appearance of Foo in the active posts list makes sense. I see active posts more as a tool for the substantive discussions than anything else. If I want foo (and I'm glad it's there), I go there, but Foo isn't what draws me to the board and when I am using the active list, I see Foo posts more as an impediment to finding what I'm after than anything else.

-Andrew

7:27 am on Jan 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Reducing the heat on "The Active" (Recent Posts list)
Long polling threads (How old is everyone here? What's your favorite pub?) and conversational exchanges (It's really hot/cold here in Kamchatka! My dog/boyfriend/girlfriend has fleas!) not related to webmastering may be exempted from the recent posts cgi after a while, they will still be accessible via the forum index.

I think it's a very good idea to take active measures to prevent off topic threads from dominating the Active Post list in a professional forum, buy I believe this solution may be a bit backwards.

The irony being that the longest threads are generally those which have sparked the most interest. People love chiming in with their contributions to "poll" type threads and I've seen this mirrored in just about every online community I participate in.

Personally, I think it would be a better solution to remove Foo threads from the Active Post list altogether by default while providing the Foo lovers the option of adding Foo back into the recent post listings via a choice in the Active Post control panel.

This would keep the forum free of idle chit chat for the "no nonsense" types that come here purely for business, without sacrificing the totally off topic feel good factor that so many regulars here know and love.

This could effectively maintain the professional integrity of a rapidly growing forum without sacrificing the community feeling which is the very reason so many invest a great deal of both professional and personal time here.

7:37 am on Jan 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member mivox is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



Personally, I think it would be a better solution to remove Foo threads from the Active Post list altogether by default while providing the Foo lovers the option of adding Foo back into the recent post listings via a choice in the Active Post control panel.

:) I like it.

7:51 am on Jan 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Ok thanks, very good point. I will discuss it with the council.
8:52 am on Jan 11, 2003 (gmt 0)



I try and make posts a bit of fun for all concerned.

I have NO time to be making Political or Race related comments either in Foo or in my life.

I can see the strain that it may cause on the "Active list" and would have thought FOO would just be removed from there.

In my eyes FOO was the "chillout" corner of Webmasterworld, where semi topics related could be shared (best cup of tea, snow outside the office, etc etc)

anyway if I am the culprit here, I apologise.

Shak

(personally Foo and Webmaster Supporters Forum are the 2 places I visit most on here)

8:57 am on Jan 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member mivox is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



I notice you are conspicuously absent from the grilling thread, Shak...
9:35 am on Jan 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member nick_w is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



Didn't mean to suggest your FOO contributions were unwelcome Shak, far from it. I LOVE these things! ;)

Nick

10:15 am on Jan 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Vetoing of "non web related" subjects in Foo, may well mean erstwhile contibutors to Foo wandering off and having their relaxation instead adding contributions to the "how unfair is Google in not making my site number one" and "I submitted to Dmoz 3 years ago and its not in the index" threads instead. ;)
3:54 pm on Jan 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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better solution to remove Foo threads from the Active Post list altogether by default while providing the Foo lovers the option of adding Foo back into the recent post listings

Great idea, Dante. And Brett, I certainly understand what you are trying to deal with.

lgn

4:20 pm on Jan 11, 2003 (gmt 0)



What we need is a password protected, robot disallowed, members only section, where we have a little more liberty to throw in some political humor (not political discussion) here or there.

I understand that there are people on this board that lives in areas where certain discussions can get people in trouble.

Maybe the risk is to great, as the primary goal of this board is the sharing of ecommerce related information, and we don't want to have the whole board blocked, due to the sensitivity of some posts.

I guess I have gone full circle here.

4:21 pm on Jan 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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better solution to remove Foo threads from the Active Post list altogether by default while providing the Foo lovers the option of adding Foo back into the recent post listings

He he! this foo is turning in some community thread...

What I would like to see is a way for users to remove individual threads or whole forums, right from the active list. But I have no idea of what kind of work is involved to achieve this.

Maybe for BestBBS v4.0?

11:43 pm on Jan 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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What I would like to see is a way for users to remove individual threads or whole forums, right from the active list. But I have no idea of what kind of work is involved to achieve this.

Great idea Macguru!

Being that this goes well beyond the scope of Foo, I've started a new thread [webmasterworld.com] with my reply in the community issues forum.

 

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