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How can i find out which ads are CPM based?

         

shsh

4:14 am on Oct 9, 2005 (gmt 0)



Hey , i know some of the ads appearing at my site are CPM based, is there a way to test which is actually CPM without blocking it in the first place?
maybe there's a database someone built which everybody are entering thier information?

thanks.

mhhfive

4:55 am on Oct 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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hmm. does anyone know how popular CPM ads actually are? Google just lowered the minimum bid prices on them... But does that mean CPM ads are popular or not?

Noximus

11:19 am on Oct 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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shsh,
Are you sure that there exist CPM based Ads?
What do you mean in CPM based ads?

shsh

11:33 am on Oct 9, 2005 (gmt 0)



yeah , im pretty sure , early at each day i get some money in my account (Very low amount) without clicks, something like a cent per 1000 visitors.
it's like that for a long time, and i wish to block it.

Noximus

11:45 am on Oct 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Do you mean High CPM Means High CPC?

shsh

11:58 am on Oct 9, 2005 (gmt 0)



no....
I Mean Ill get much more revenue from clicks then from pageviews (and my CTR is stading on 1 click per 2000 page views....BAD!)
still , each click is like a dollar or so , so 10-15$ a day isnt bad....
but from the other hand, the CPM ad is paying me only 1 cent per 1000 visitors which is like small change in comparation to clicks...

Tropical Island

12:12 pm on Oct 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I Mean Ill get much more revenue from clicks then from pageviews

According to the Google explanation that is not supposed to happen. The CPM ads are supposed to give you the same or higher than you would receive with a click based ad.

In actual practise in order to provide enough impressions for those that are using the CPM model they may be cheating a little.

shsh

3:43 pm on Oct 9, 2005 (gmt 0)



a little?
lets calculate.
i earn a $ for a click.(on avg)
i get very very low CTR (its a forum , so its about 1 click to 2000 visitors(not unique))
so from 2000 visits i get 2 click = 2$
and on CPM based ads , 0.01(Harddllly)*2 = 0.02$
i think a scale of 1/100 is not so little.
so , how can i detect the evil ad who stops me from earning some cash?

by the way, although its a forum i get this very very low CTR , and eCPM of about 0.45$ , a waste of traffic.....
What methods can i use to get it a little bit higher?
i already made rotating colors....

europeforvisitors

3:53 pm on Oct 9, 2005 (gmt 0)



by the way, although its a forum i get this very very low CTR , and eCPM of about 0.45$ , a waste of traffic.....

Not "although it's a forum," but "because it's a forum." Forums typically don't do well with AdSense because:

1) Most users aren't in "purchasing mode" when they visit a forum; and...

2) Forums tend to attract repeat visitors, so "ad blindness" becomes a problem (especially if the same ads are appearing regularly).

I can remember seeing AOL's rate card years ago, and the CPM for forums was less than a third of the CPM for search or content ads that were targeted by category. (Chat ads paid even less.) So forum ads were considered low-performing ads by advertisers and publishers long before AdSense came along.

That doesn't mean you can't earn money with AdSense in a forum; you just need a lot of traffic to make up for the low earnings per click and clickthrough rates. (Its a bit like owning a gas station or supermarket where you rely on volume instead of profit margins.)

shsh

4:10 pm on Oct 9, 2005 (gmt 0)



that's exactly it , i earn about 10$ daily , with this forum.
the problem comes from the CPM ads which drammatically effect my earnings as clicking it wont give me a dime.

kartiksh

8:19 am on Oct 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

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shsh,

this might help you. i emailed adsense support and requested them that i want to optout of CPM based ads. They responded with phrases like "Please consider that participation in site targeting allows you to receive the most earnings possible. Site targeting will work to your benefit, blah blah"

and asked me to reconfirm, i reconfired and i am notified "you have been opted-out of the AdSense CPM site targeting campaign."

Now i see some improvement in earnings again.

miguelito

8:44 am on Oct 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

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why are you writing to adsense, why not just change the settings in your account to "text ads only" is it that difficult?

kartiksh

8:57 am on Oct 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

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yes, it is difficult to change adsense code on all about 500 html pages where i have used diffrent sizes of ads etc. So its better to truned it off from google end. they responded and its done. thanks G

PS: i also posted in WW for alternatives [webmasterworld.com...]

alika

10:00 am on Oct 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

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why are you writing to adsense, why not just change the settings in your account to "text ads only" is it that difficult?

Miguelito, you are assuming that CPM ads are image ads only. I think this has been pointed out here several times that this is not the case. CPM ads are BOTH text and image ads -- hence the account panel does not provide you with an option to opt out of it. If you want out of CPM ads, you have to contact Adsense directly and ask to be removed from those campaigns

krod

5:35 pm on Nov 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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cpm ads are the ones that fill the entire ad unit.

perldiver

5:58 pm on Nov 8, 2005 (gmt 0)



They usually do fill an ad unit, but normal ads can be "optimized" by G on the fly to fill an ad unit as well, so that's not a definite indication.

Here's my guesses as to how to tell a CPM ad:

1. They fill an ad unit
2. They're from "Google" and not "Goooooogle"
3. They don't show in the Preview Tool
4. They're not contextual to your site