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ann

3:27 am on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I was just thinking. If I could get over the average .07 cents and .08 cents payouts on clicks I would be filthy rich.

With what I am making now, if ad prices ever rise significantly, and I have the same traffic and ctr I would be very very wealthy.

It could happen! Everything is going up so why not advertising?

Just musing.
:)

Ann

Atomic

3:56 am on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Add a disclaimer to to the top of your website:

This website has nothing to do with travel to paris, rome or anywhere exotic and/or expensive. Nor is this site's subject matter related to plasma televisions, insurance of any kind, malpractice lawsuits, child custody or INS issues. Furthermore, this site will not delve into subjects like the exchange of currencies or publicly traded stocks, automobiles in whole or by the part, precious metals, gems or diamonds.

I'm sure you could add to that but it couldn't hurt ; )

spaceylacie

4:11 am on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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If I could tell Google directly the kinds of things my visitors buy. Maybe even an independent survey on my site that gets sent to a G reviewer. One site, for example, I know that these visitors spend sometimes 100s of dollars a month on certain types of items and these items are hard to find offline! If only G showed ads for these items... my visitors would gobble them up and advertisers would be bidding away to get a share of the sales!

Swebbie

4:12 am on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hey Ann,

Knowing what field you're in, it may be that you're topping out at 8¢ per click... I dunno. If you have time, you might want to spend some time building another site about something that you learn has advertisers with deep pockets. You already know from my sticky mail what my sites are about. My hint is that the topics that you'd think have rich advertisers do. My highest paying clicks come from two of those topics. The rest are usually less than 10¢ each. I often fantasize about all the money I'd be making now if I got the 1000 clicks/day I get with the average click payout I get from those 2 sites. I'd be in the 5-figure club. Sigh... ahh, to sleep, perchance to dream.

ann

4:32 am on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi Swebby and all.

Yep, fraid that is entirely true.

BTW, I am almost finished my new site, completely unrelated to the other two :) ,

so I am hoping. Got a couple more ideas too.

Have to wait now to get my sight repaired---can barely see.

Had a laser procedure on the left that was supposed to give that eye better sight (?) and I go to a specialist tuesday to see about repairing the hole in the macula of the right eye. I seem to be coming apart or is it just fraying at the edges ;)

Darn, guess I will have to learn fast touch typing. LOL


Ann

incrediBILL

5:29 am on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The problem is you all depend on someone else, Google in this case, to sell all your advertising for you. The day you start selling direct ad space on your web site is the day you'll make some real money.

Let me know when you get your first $20K check just for one advertiser for a 3 month campaign, and that's just ONE advertiser, then we'll talk.

spaceylacie

6:17 am on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for the reminder, Bill. After I re-read my post I started re-thinking about that route even before you mentioned it.

ann

6:55 am on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi bill,
nope I am not going mono advertiser on my sites. I also have two other CPM advertising on so I have an income from 3 diferent souces plus a fall back position (ideas for replacements) if adsense should dry up. I don't depend on any of them.

Just thought it might be nice to get rich(er). As long as I am breathing I consider myself rich, LOL

Ann

david_uk

7:30 am on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Ann, just a though:-

I have no idea what your site topic is, but what has raised my earnings per click is to block ebay and any advert for a site that is made for adsense. This has the effect of putting advertisers who sell goods and services on my site - they pay better.

Because an ad is showing, doesn't mean to say it's the best payer. The bot selects ads on what Google *think* will be best payer based on a whole lot of factors. On my site what clearly works best are the ones that have lower ctr but higher bids. My site is tightly focussed, and the tighter the targetting the better!

Words of caution should you try this:-

Be aware that it's a gamble - it may well work against you!

Don't block all the ads at once - do it slowly. Smartpricing hates change and reacts badly (downwards).

Expect a lower ctr, and possibly lower earnings to start with until smartpricing decides your site is worth more. That can be a while, but I started to see a rise in epc that has continued in a couple of weeks. My ctr is lower than when I had the made for adsense junk displaying, but the earnings are WAY higher. There is a trade off between clicks and possibly higher epc, but advertisers actually selling good and services on a quality site is much better than just showing ads directed at siphoning off your traffic to click their ads!

Don't block competitors that may pay well - just made for adsense.

ann

7:35 am on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for the advice David,
I did that early on and that's when my earnings took off :)

Not complaining, I was just dreaming out loud so to speak.

I guess I wanted to hear some dreams of others also but keep the suggestions coming. Just because I already did some of them other people reading this thread may find some gems...and I am keeping my ears open for some I haven't read or thought of. ;)

Ann

HughMungus

3:54 pm on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Add a disclaimer to to the top of your website:
This website has nothing to do with travel to paris, rome or anywhere exotic and/or expensive. Nor is this site's subject matter related to plasma televisions, insurance of any kind, malpractice lawsuits, child custody or INS issues. Furthermore, this site will not delve into subjects like the exchange of currencies or publicly traded stocks, automobiles in whole or by the part, precious metals, gems or diamonds.

I'm sure you could add to that but it couldn't hurt ; )

I'm tempted to do this.

incrediBILL

6:16 pm on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Ann,

Worrying about the CPC isn't the way into the winners circle of the AdSense lottery, you need to look at the big picture!

Assume you have 100 web sites generating a minimum of $50/day x 30 days in a month pays $150,000/month or annually that's $1,800,000.

That's all I want, nothing special.

edd1

6:21 pm on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The greatest wish of any web developer, to go back in time 2 years.

Actually if you assume that a lot of the basics will stay the same for the next 2 years you probably will do very well.

Atomic

6:27 pm on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Work on developing affiliate sales. If you have enough targeted traffic you'll definately be able to make some sales. Just one or two leads/sales can equal dozens or hundrds of AdSense clicks.

spaceylacie

6:37 pm on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Haha, ask and ye shall receive. I noticed targeted ads on the site I was complaining about yesterday! I'm wondering if the adlinks do act as sort of a survey because at the same time I started seeing the correct topic among the adlinks, the other units are beginning to display proper ads. Numbers today are looking very nice.

ann

10:20 pm on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Bill wins the prize for biggest dream posted!

Good for you and let's hope all of us make those figures in the near future. :)

I don't need to whine as my numbers have tripled since Feburary so I am happy.

Ann

incrediBILL

10:26 pm on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Biggest dream?

Oh Ann, I barely started with the overview concept...

Limit your dedicated server to 100 domains each so they don't get too overloaded, get a bank of 50 servers each with 100 domains making $50/domain/day x 100 domains/server x 50 servers = $250,000/day or $91,250,000 annually.

Guess I need to hire some people quick as I'm way behind!

robsynnott

10:30 pm on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Oh, I do love the "oh, look at me, I make so much money" posturing that goes on here :)

LeoXIV

10:32 pm on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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reading this thread may find some gems..

i guess i did! thanks to DavidUK, and Ann of course :)

so you mean the ones which heavily benefit from 'adwords discounter'?

ann

10:36 pm on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi Rob,

No I don't make near the money a lot in here do but I hope to get there. And yes, my income has more than tripled since February.

I don't doubt for one minute that incrediBILL makes an excellent income, his ideas and advice always seem to be good and helpful.

Cheers,

Ann

incrediBILL

10:39 pm on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Oh, I do love the "oh, look at me, I make so much money" posturing that goes on here

No, this is the "I'd like to make so much money" posturing.

If I was making anywhere close to those numbers you wouldn't see me at all ;)

Zygoot

10:41 pm on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>Limit your dedicated server to 100 domains each so they don't get too overloaded, get a bank of 50 servers each with 100 domains making $50/domain/day x 100 domains/server x 50 servers = $250,000/day or $91,250,000 annually.

If it only was that simple..

My dream would be to make more than $1 million a year. If only my traffic levels could increase 15x with CTR and EPC staying roughly the same..

ann

10:46 pm on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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WTG Bill,

Any more dreams and how they might be implimented?

Yep this is the wannabe rich thread. ;)

Ann

incrediBILL

10:59 pm on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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If it only was that simple..

Personally I think it is that simple.

It's a shame I'm that lazy though.

ann

12:18 am on Sep 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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If you're lazy I'm Winnie the Pooh. ;)

Ann

incrediBILL

12:21 am on Sep 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I've only got 27 domains in progress, a far cry from the 100 per server I would like.

See, I'm lazy!

great_9

12:33 am on Sep 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Limit your dedicated server to 100 domains each so they don't get too overloaded, get a bank of 50 servers each with 100 domains making $50/domain/day x 100 domains/server x 50 servers = $250,000/day or $91,250,000 annually.

or get 50 server, put all domains on all of the servers and just use load balancing.

janethuggard

12:57 am on Sep 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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There is a wild rally going on today. Adsense bidding has gone wild. My ppc on some keywords is 40 times the highest it has ever been.

I am thinking it has to do with Hurricane Rita coming. We see a slow down of about two weeks after any major USA disaster. Could it be the rally is trying to get the getting while the getting is good before Rita hits, the markets go wild, gas jumps sky high and the compass points south?

Seems to me there are those who are hedging their bets. It is not just one industry bidding up their keywords...it is quite a few. Very odd time of the week, time of the month, and time of the season to see this wild bidding.

Anyone else see this?

adi_c

9:44 am on Sep 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Nice dreams ann, who knows maybe they'll come true someday. We all wish they did.

Hey incrediBILL, don't you think 100 domains(websites) are going to be hard to mantain in terms of content and revenue stream, especially considering the adsense fluctuations?

ann

9:58 am on Sep 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yep,

I was thinking the same thing. LOL

I already spend more time on this than I would a full time job...and at my age! I'm supposed to be "retired",
for cryin' out loud.

Ann

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