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AdSense optimizers?

Are there any AdSense optimizers?

         

zoltan

8:10 am on Oct 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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As I wrote a few times, my AdSense ads are mainly "site specific" not "page specific" as I would like them to be. My competition always display page relevant ads and don't know what is the problem with my sites.

Are there any AdSense optimizers around? If yes, I would love to read your comments about what have you made to optimize your site(s) or your clients' site(s) for AdSense.

killroy

11:26 am on Oct 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I know this is not what you want to hear, but good clean content oriented design, with adherence to the meaning of tags, i.e. using Hx tags and p tags properly, as well as movign navigation to the bottom of the apge, no JS, only clean href links and the like, all worked well for me.

I'm sure there are strict black-hat techniques with stupendous success rates, but I was always a long-haul kinda guy, and keeping things clean and good for the visitor worked for adSense too. In fact the more I clean htings up to help adSense along, the more I think my pages become better and more usefull for the visitors too. It's win-win I believe.

SN

zoltan

1:03 pm on Oct 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Thank you for your suggestions. What do you mean by using Hx tags and p tags properly? Can you please elaborate a little?

globay

1:46 pm on Oct 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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You should structure your text with <h1> tags for headers, for example.

zoltan

1:55 pm on Oct 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I am not a master on this field and I will probably hire somebody to do the work for me. <snip>

[edited by: Jenstar at 5:46 pm (utc) on Oct. 26, 2003]
[edit reason] Please use Commercial Exchange [webmasterworld.com] [/edit]

zoltan

2:00 pm on Oct 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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What if I use stylesheets? Do I still need to use H1s?

Marcia

2:42 pm on Oct 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>>page specific

Site 1
There's some ads running on a certain part of the site that's different from the rest of the site topically. Yet you can see that the AdSense relates not to that page but to what's on the rest of the site overall. And that page is what you could call "optimized" to be page specific - including keywords sprinkled throughout, H1 - H2, Page Title and all.

Site 2
The "site" is about a certain subject area and all the AdSense all over relates to the site theme. There's one page on the site that's a different topic and the AdSense is spot on for what's on that particular page.

>site specific

How close are the ads placed to the global site navigation?

europeforvisitors

5:51 pm on Oct 26, 2003 (gmt 0)



AdSense "optimizing" is mostly a matter of using common sense. Your page titles and headlines should be descriptive so the MediaPartnerbot can figure out what the pages are about.

GOOD TITLE OR HEADLINE:

"Wire-Haired Fox Terriers"

BAD TITLE OR HEADLINE:

"A wired and feisty family dog"

If you want to be cute or clever, do it in the subhead, not the page title or headline. (This is the opposite of what you'd do if you were writing a nonfiction book, where you'd typically use a clever title and a descriptive subhead--as in "NO NUDES IS GOOD NUDES: A History of Censorship in Twentieth Century America.")

danny

9:53 pm on Oct 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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This is the opposite of what you'd do if you were writing a nonfiction book, where you'd typically use a clever title and a descriptive subhead--as in "NO NUDES IS GOOD NUDES: A History of Censorship in Twentieth Century America."

You have no idea how painful this is when you have a review site with page titles auto-generated from the book titles... Sometimes the book subtitle would make a more useful page title than the title and author, but sometimes the subtitle is useless e.g. "Censorship in Twentieth Century America: A History". There's no problem if title, subtitle, and author will all fit into the TITLE, of course, but often that just doesn't work.

Marcia

11:57 pm on Oct 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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OK... is anyone seeing the proximity to certain other text on the page influencing what type of ads are being run? Or any possible commercial viability factors coming into play?

If we're talking about <Hn> and page titles being the determining factor, some other page on Site 2 has the site's "main" topics in the page title and H1 tag - plus the global navigation links and main site words and phrases used in the first first paragraph of that page.

But there's a bulleted list of links to other pages in that one section and guess what? The AdSense is running not for what the page or site is technically "optimized" for and about but what would probably be the most commercially viable sub-topics that appear only in that bulleted list, which is links to sub-pages of that section, only on that one page. Not what the site or the page itself is about, but the sub-topics that appear only in links in that list.

In a couple of places I'm seeing specifics running that seem to indicate an uncanny ability to pick out and target the particular words that have the highest potential value in terms of running ads.

It could be only my over-active imagination and I only have relatively few pages out there and haven't spent much time looking over very many altogether, but it's interesting to ponder in terms of what NFFC has brought to our attention in terms of IDF - Inverse Document Frequency, as a side note to what it looks like just eyeballing first appearances.

Food for thought. :)