Invalid Clicks

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[richlanderjohn]

I am John Dammon and a newbie to the Adsense world. Could any expert please help me to answer some questions regarding Adsense.
What are exactly considered invalid clicks?
Does clicking on the ads from my home pc considered invalid clicks?
How about clicking them once a day on a daily basis(from the same PC)?
Thanks for helping.

[creepychris]

Wow! and yes. Perhaps you should view the TOS (Terms of Service). The only thing I'll say to you is once you are kicked out, there is almost no coming back. So tread carefully.

[zCat]

I'm not an expert, but invalid clicks are whatever Google deems them to be. I'd hazard a guess though that repeated clicks on ads from the same PC, especially on a site with virtually no traffic, would be an excellent qualification for a speedy exit from the AdSense world.

[richlanderjohn]

Clicking from an outside PC(e.g. work, school,pub) too many times would be counted as invalids as well? What is someone tries to bring your biz down intentionally by doing that?

[Zygoot]

What are exactly considered invalid clicks?

There's no clear definition provided by Google.

Does clicking on the ads from my home pc considered invalid clicks?

That's a clear violation of the AdSense TOS.

How about clicking them once a day on a daily basis(from the same PC)?

I hope you aren't doing this but this will get you banned. Google has many ways to track you made the clicks and by doing this you are seriously abusing your account. By doing this you are committing fraud as you steal money from advertisers. This will get you banned and may even get you on a blacklist so you can forget about opening a new account over at one of Google's competitors..

[makes a little sense]

To the Original OP,

Wouldn't you want thousands of legitimate people clicking on your ads because of your content rather than just yourself?

[richlanderjohn]

Basically me and a group of Adsense webmasters started a) "Adsense Network". The 27 of us(all newbies click on the other 26 webmaster's ads on a daily basis. Since all of us have fairly high paying keywords, this might work unless Google disallow this.

[Jean]

'AdSense webmasters'? Why not just call yourselves 'Thieves'?

[europeforvisitors]

Dang. Now the forum will be cluttered up with another 27 "Why was I booted from AdSense?" threads.

[richlanderjohn]

All of us are just trying to making some money for our ever-increasing college tuition. My next year's tuition and board for me will be well over 50K.

[edited by: richlanderjohn at 5:46 am (utc) on Sep. 4, 2005]

[Knappster]

Probably not a good idea to give your name in a post, and then go on to admit click fraud. Especially when the AdsenseAdvisor is known to prowl these grounds. Expect an email from the Googleplex momentarily.

[MarkHutch]

Does anyone in your group feel bad that you are stealing from the folks that are paying to place ads on your website(s)? They are not paying for you to click on each others ads. They are trying to sell products and services to people on the internet.

[ann]

This guy and his buddies are clearly thieves.

His other thread pretty much proves to me he is looking for a free lunch.
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Ann

[RonS]

Wow, I guess $50,000 doesn't buy much in the way of exclusivity anymore.

I find it hard to believe that you think Google can't figure out a reciprocal clicking scheme <headshake>

Let's say your IP address is 1, and your buddy is IP 2.

1 logs into AdSense account 1.
2 logs into AdSense account 2.
1 clicks on 2.
2 clicks on 1.

You don't think AdSense will catch this?

IP1 clicks on 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10...27 every day.
You don't think that AdSense will notice that the same IP is clicking on the same 26 sites every day?

Save the $50K.

On the other hand, it could be a post from John Dammon's competitor, or angry girlfriend...

[jema]

It does make me wonder whether there is a heavier legal angle on this than just the T&C. What is being proposed is basically theft/fraud and should receive more than a slap on the wrist.

It is the worst apsect of adsense, worse even than the loads of "for adsense" sites that are not adding a single bit of real value to anyones web surfing, but are simply parisitical in nature.

[Zygoot]

All of us are just trying to making some money for our ever-increasing college tuition. My next year's tuition and board for me will be well over 50K.

Basically you're all thieves. It may not feel the same way but it's just the same as stealing products in stores or pick pockets..

Bear in mind that in the worst case scenario Google may even sue you all to recover all profit (or more) you made.

[europeforvisitors]

I wonder if they're on a university network? I shouldn't think a university would be comfortable having its network used for criminal activities.

[Meike]

All of us are just trying to making some money for our ever-increasing college tuition. My next year's tuition and board for me will be well over 50K.

You want to know how to make some cash? -- Give this a try: Get a job and earn your own way through college. If you can't meet the costs of college, then chances are you qualify for financial aid. Take the time to fill out an application. Research scholarships that you qualify for and apply for them.

Life is full of challenges and if you aren't up to meeting them responsibly (not to mention legally), you've got a long road ahead with lots of bumps in it. Don't expect for other people to pay your way through life just because you're looking to take the easy road. That won't gain you much sympathy or make you many friends.