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"Ads by Google" line missing from ads

Not toggling black/white depending on border color

         

Imaster

8:51 am on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Not sure what is happening, but I noticed that the text "Ads by Google" has been set to white font by default. Irrespective of whether I change the text color or not, it is always set as <font color="ffffff">. I noticed that this happened after the new feature added for alternate ads.

In case, the background is white, the "Ads by Google" cannot be seen at all because it also carries the same font color. In case of very light blue or a light shade of any color, you can see the "Ads by Google" if you look deeply, but it is not very clearly visible because of its white font color.

Since I have white background for the ads on one of my site, the "Ads by Google" looks missing. What must I do?

My code looks as follows:

<script type="text/javascript"><!--
google_ad_client = "xxxx";
google_ad_width = 120;
google_ad_height = 600;
google_ad_format = "120x600_as";
google_color_border = "FFFFFF";
google_color_bg = "FFFFFF";
google_color_link = "0000FF";
google_color_url = "008000";
google_color_text = "000000";
//--></script>
<script type="text/javascript"
src="http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js">
</script>

You could try a variation with this code and you will notice what I mean.

RoadRash

9:02 am on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Google must have just made this change. I am not going to alter my code until I know whats going on from google...

Imaster

9:05 am on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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But did you also notice the same on your site?

cornwall

9:33 am on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I am not sure if we are talking at cross purposes, but if I duplicate your coding, "Ads by Google" is black, and I can get the "Ads by Google" to toggle between black and white depending on the colour of background I select

PFOnline

9:45 am on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Just took a look at my site and noticed the same thing...

No "Ads by Google" link... made no changes to the code, so it must be on Google's end.

<added> Maybe there doing an expirement to see if clicks rise without the link... :)

Imaster

10:27 am on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Thanks PFOnline, that helps!

Jenstar

10:30 am on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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They have done changes so that ad text/URL will always be visible (as per the new terms) and I suspect that something to do with the "Ads by Google" was inadvertantly changed at the same time.

Cornwall is right though, it generally toggles between black and white, depending on what the border color is (google_color_border = "FFFFFF"; )

Is this something you see just with already-published code?

PFOnline

10:56 am on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Ahh, your right Jenstar, didn't notice that...

The "Ads by Google" link is missing, AND the URL's of the ad's are now SHOWING...

I had the URL of the ad's removed, (so only the link and description of the ad showed...) and now they're back and showing...

Liked that we had the option if we wanted to show the URL of the ad or not, think it helped click thru rate without it...

Wonder what will happen to CTR's now!

2oddSox

11:02 am on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Nicely spotted Imaster. I've got the same issue on one of my sites. I wouldn't have noticed that in a month of Sunday's.

Is this something you see just with already-published code?

I've been putting the code on this site since last night, and it's happening with all the new pages.

2odd...

robho

11:11 am on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I had the URL of the ad's removed, (so only the link and description of the ad showed...) and now they're back and showing...

The terms were changed on 1st October to require the URL to be visible, so maybe they're tweaking things to enforce that.

On my sites the existing code is now showing "Ads by Google" in white (on my white background, so hard to see) but the URL color (light blue, for me) is unchanged.

Sharper

11:22 am on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It appears that the "Ads by Google" is now the same color as the border is set to, not just black or white.

I've got a light-tan border that blends into the background of a site, and since the ads have a different page element isolating them on the page, I had the border set to match the background. Now not only does the border blend in, but the "Ads by Google" does as well.

farnwomt

12:14 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Same result here with the Ads by Google being the same colour as the border.

What I hadn't noticed before was that the link seems to lead through to a page which allows you to comment on what you think of the ads you were given.

Jobarr

4:22 am on Oct 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

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My border is #DDDDDD, but the Ads By Google thing is still white...it looks really bad against the light grey background. :(

onfire

3:02 pm on Oct 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Just noticed this today Phew!

so i am well glad to see i am not the only one here where by the the "Ads By Google" has gone from black to white and is unreadable in fact, and this may be why my CTR has gone up.

dogboy

2:35 am on Oct 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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heheeheh I just saw this too on one of my own sites and was completely perplexed.... sitting in the admin panel looking at what it should look like and then looking at my own site.... first I was happy, then got all paranoid/freaked out that I was going to get banned for it, so I came in here to hear the word... now that I did, I uploaded that page as fast as possible:) They won't ban you if everyone else has the same thing happening to them... hopefully it will take them a while for them to figure it out:) ...doubt that, but take the money and run while the gettin's good

div01

1:53 pm on Oct 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I only see this on one of my sites...it has the border set to FFFFFF and G seems to be putting in text with the same colour.

robho

2:21 pm on Oct 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Has anybody had any response from Google on when/if this might be fixed? When I wrote on tuesday they said they had forwarded it to the "engineering team" (some poor javascript coder in a cubicle) for investigation, but nothing since.

As it is still continuing I changed my colors last night to keep within the terms (apart from one page to demonstrate the problem) but as that's having quite a further impact on CTR I'll probably have to change it back. Would be nice to know if they have any plans to fix it.

BTW, without "Ads by Google" there was no increase in CTR - more like a 20% drop for three days - so the branding probably does help clicks noticably, at least when the ads are blended into the site like mine were.

dogboy

5:59 pm on Oct 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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as far as I'm concerned it doesnt violate tos... cant get to them now because adsense is down... but it said ad text and urls must be visible.... and they are...'ads by google' is neither an ad nor a url... it is a disclaimer, and they are causing it to not show up, not me.

I dont think ads by google help me a bit on my sites

Sharper

6:17 pm on Oct 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I tried out changing the border color so that the Ads by Google appeared along with the borders... and ended up with a 25% nose-dive in CTR. Changed it back, and CTR went back to normal. I think I'll leave it alone for now, although I may test changing it again in the middle of next week, just to make sure it wasn't a fluke from today, what with people complaining about slow stats and all.

robho

6:44 pm on Oct 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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but it said ad text and urls must be visible.... and they are...'ads by google' is neither an ad nor a url...

You're right, I hadn't noticed we don't have to make "Ads by Google" visible. I'll change it back as having a contrasting border is killing CTR even more than having "Ads by Google" invisible.

div01

11:39 pm on Oct 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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IIRC, we (publishers) can't control the colour of "Ads by Google" text - hence I am leaving it alone and will let Google worry about it.

dogboy

1:37 am on Oct 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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...exactly. And I hope they don't do anything.

I'm logging into my account, I'm creating the code with the generator, I am using colors that don't violate tos, I see the sample ad they give me with the black 'ads by google' link, I take the code they generate, I do not alter the code as per tos, I paste it on my site, and it appears differently than how they illustrated it would appear... in other words, not my fault.

anxvariety

5:39 am on Oct 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I bet it's intentional to see what effect it has or doesn't have on CTR.

I've personally seen dramatic increases in CTR with simple adjustments to certain similar properties.

Jenstar

5:57 am on Oct 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I hadn't noticed we don't have to make "Ads by Google" visible

This was never addressed in their terms etc because this was never something that webmasters could turn on/off at will. It was an automatic toggle where it would switch between black or white depending on how dark or light the border was.

Google can't be too overly concerned about it, or I am sure there would have been a fix by now. And the Premium publishers do not have "Ads by Google" on their AdSense. So perhaps they are doing a trial run and seeing what the differences are depending on if the Google name is there or not.

I suspect it will quietly turn back on at some point, or it will be released AdSense-wide as a feature that publishers can turn on or off.

At the beginning, it was very much a branding thing, people knew the Google name, and wanted to learn more about these ads, and how to sign up for them. Now, it is not nearly as important to get the Google name out there on these ads as it was at the beginning of the AdSense launch for non-Premium publishers.

robho

4:56 pm on Oct 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Google can't be too overly concerned about it, or I am sure there would have been a fix by now.

True Jenstar, maybe they are taking the opportunity to see what effect it has (negative so far for my sites).

Doesn't look like it was intentional in the first place though (otherwise the preview would work, and it would affect dark colours also). Seems to be side effect of forcing the urls to be visible.

Jenstar

5:08 pm on Oct 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yes, I agree, I doubt it was intentional, since it did show up with the FAQ/term changes to combat hidden URLs & text. But it is the perfect opportunity for testing.

Blue_Fin

8:39 pm on Oct 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Seems to be side effect of forcing the urls to be visible.

The advertiser's URL has never been visible on banners or leaderboards that have a full complement of ads (2 for banners and 4 for leaderboards).