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If, somewhere in the Adsense panel, we start gettign a daily "Invalid Clicks Count", maybe next to Clicks (or say - Valid Clicks), if would be helpful.
Furthermore, if a warning level can be set / displayed in any account, it would be useful too. Just think of a RED display to tell a member to check his account because some of the TOS is beign voilated.
This is all aimed at a wish to see a warning system in the adsense account to make users more aware of mistakes they might be doing.
This would also help in reducing the banned acounts, and people would know they were warned before they got the kick.
It would also be helpful to those scamming the system. They'll know which of their invalid clicks were caught and which ones weren't. They can then refine their fraud.
Also, they are not going to analise every click every minute of every day, when they discover the invalid clicks etc; it is as part of an overall monthly review....some times they consider it fraud when the pattern has been building for a number of months.
Please note that google uses "invalid clicks" to cover a multitude of things they donīt like
- proxy clicks
- multi IP clicks
- forum clicks
for example, on a forum site, if you have steady traffic and it is returning week after week, they will eventually ban you for "invalid clicks" ...no fraud has been committed but they consider that weekly returning traffic with no new additions is not desirable for their advertisers.
All they do is run the IP stats through a certain traffic analysis program and check it against their own IP data banks and proxy lists to determine invalid clicking.
As a final check, they then use another program to detect unusual patterns etc;but this takes time and no way are they going to check it daily...they donīt need to check it daily when they only pay monthly ;)
for example, on a forum site, if you have steady traffic and it is returning week after week, they will eventually ban you for "invalid clicks" ...no fraud has been committed but they consider that weekly returning traffic with no new additions is not desirable for their advertisers.
It's scary to see people post things like this as if they were fact...then others repeat it somewhere else like it was a fact.
Do you have any evidence that says that adsense will ban you for invalid clicks if you have ads on a forum with users that return week after week, or is that something you just made up?
How is a forum any different from a blog with a regular readership? Certainly Google doesn't ban blogs because of their traffic pattern.
It's scary to see people post things like this as if they were fact...then others repeat it somewhere else like it was a fact.
Do you have any evidence that says that adsense will ban you for invalid clicks if you have ads on a forum with users that return week after week, or is that something you just made up?
Actually, mr smarty pants, i speak from personal experience, two of my sites were booted out for invalid clicks and after three months of writing email after email they finally admitted to me that the reason was "unchanging traffic" although this was conveyed to me via phone call not email.
Whatīs scary is people like YOU who ASSUME that others make things up without having any idea who is actually writing the piece or why...i suggest you take a 101 crash course in forum manners.
As for the other point...yes, many forum sites (including some of mine) do very well from adsense...i didnīt suggest that ALL forum sites are doomed...i referred to forum sites with static returning traffic.
Actually, mr smarty pants, i speak from personal experience, two of my sites were booted out for invalid clicks and after three months of writing email after email they finally admitted to me that the reason was "unchanging traffic" although this was conveyed to me via phone call not email.
If you had evidence of your claim, you should post it at the same time of making the claim, otherwise it seems like it was just made up.
So you are saying you got a phone call from the Adsense team? That's the first I've heard of that.
I still find it VERY hard to believe that you were booted just because your forum had returning visitors. All forums have returning visitors, so this doesn't really make much sense.
Whatīs scary is people like YOU who ASSUME that others make things up without having any idea who is actually writing the piece or why...i suggest you take a 101 crash course in forum manners.
Readers really shouldn't have to assume anything when reading your message.
If you had been clear up front about where you got your information (which could also be seen as forum manners), then there wouldn't have been the issue.
I still think it sounds like a stretch to say that you were booted because your forum had "unchanging traffic". I have a feeling there is more to the story.
i didnīt suggest that ALL forum sites are doomed...i referred to forum sites with static returning traffic.
I find that hard to believe.
Forum sites have static returning traffic by nature. Your post made it seem like all forum sites would be banned. Maybe I'm not understanding what you mean by static returning traffic.
Maybe you should have said "I got banned" instead of "they will eventually ban you". Those are 2 very different things.
There would be no reason for us to doubt your claim if you would have stated that you spoke from personal experience.
There is reason to be skeptical on matters regarding being booted from the program. You just can't expect people to take you at your word and not engage the BS filter when a claim like that is made.
But thank you for mentioning it - It makes me think twice about how much I really need that extra few bucks a day the forum provides.
