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Should I be affraid - or just join another network?

         

gordele

9:42 am on Aug 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hey Guys,

Ok Im getting afraid, why?
Because everyday I keep reading about how google banned accounts from other webmaters! By this im not telling im cheating, of curse not, I follow the G TOS by the inch and Im not doing anything agains G TOS. But you may ask, why Im afraid then?

Its simple, becuse I've seen in this forum lots of webmasters that got banned from adsense because an idiot visited his site or probably a jelous webmasters visited his sites and started clicking on all the adsense ads so they get banned from google.

Im about to launch my biggest project ever, and I decided to stick with AS, and im expecting lots of traffic for this new website Im about to launch, but with a hopefully popular website my chances will increase that an idiot will try to mess my account with google by clicking on AS ads to get me banned. Im afraid this could happen!

Why google dosent protect the webmaster in this cases? It's not webmasters fault! There is nothing we can do against that, is it?

Let me know what you think about this, or maybe you know a solution to prevent this? anything would help guys

webnoob

9:48 am on Aug 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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honestly, i think the guilty are the only ones that are worrying.

i've been using adsense for almost 2 years and i never have had a problem... i run a high traffic site too.

when they terminate someone's' account it's for a reason.. not because it's a full moon.

uk_webber

9:49 am on Aug 16, 2005 (gmt 0)



Just live with it and stop being a girl.

humblebeginnings

10:05 am on Aug 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"Stop being a girl" doesn't seem to be a proper advice to me. And "the guilty are the only ones that are worrying" isn't helpful either imho. I think AS is like real life; if you are messing with the law, be prepared for punishment. But, although very rare, sometimes an innocent bystander catches a bullet. And that is what Gordele is saying. The trouble is, most banned webmasters claim to be fully innocent. Perhaps if some banned webmasters who do know why they were banned tell us their story, we could understand the G-mind a bit better...

gordele

10:08 am on Aug 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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thank you humblebeginnings! thats exactly what I was triyng to say. some inocent webmasters have been banned with aparently no reason, only because an idiot clicked on his AS ads like 1000 times in one day to mess him up.

Im not gulty of anything, I have my adsense account in good standing, Im just saying Im afraid that an idot could click on my ads to mess me up, and actually he would do it! because google will bann ur account if you get invalid clicks!

and uk_webber or whatever, Im a girl by the way, I dont know whats the problem with being a girl, you macho old fashion guy lol

uk_webber

10:16 am on Aug 16, 2005 (gmt 0)



"Im a girl by the way"

Really?

sailorjwd

10:25 am on Aug 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It might be best to manage the things that are under your control and not waste time on those things for which you have no control.

See.. I learned something from those AA meetings.

gordele

11:54 am on Aug 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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uk_webber
Yes Im a girl/lady/woman ;)

hunderdown

12:01 pm on Aug 16, 2005 (gmt 0)



I've seen in this forum lots of webmasters that got banned from adsense because an idiot visited his site or probably a jelous webmasters visited his sites and started clicking on all the adsense ads so they get banned from google.

You seem to have been reading a different forum than I have. Of the "I've been banned" threads I've read over the past year, and where the ACTUAL cause of the ban was determined, it was usually due to a clear TOS violation. Very few cases of click attacks. Some CLAIMS of click attacks but I was often left with the feeling that posters were claiming click attacks to cover up for other violations--including botched attempts at click fraud.

We also never hear of the cases where the AdSense system deleted bad clicks from someone's account, because they don't know about it themselves. I suspect this happens quite often.

OptiRex

12:08 pm on Aug 16, 2005 (gmt 0)



gordele

Don't become paranoid, remember that the total of banned accounts this forum knows about is realistically very few considering there are some what, 50,000+ Adsense advertisers?

Possibly more these days.

Without doubt the vast majority have been from people who never read, or didn't want to understand, the TOS/T&Cs and have created their own problems.

There have been the odd one or two cases which have been reveiwed by G and re-instated.

Honestly, I don't understand why so many have to sail "so close to the wind" when such an excellent program is usable within the terms.

Heavens, it's not even 3 years ago most of us would have paid to get into a program like this so difficult it was to sell advertising space on our web sites!

YesMom

2:07 pm on Aug 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Do you know how hard it is to try to stop being a girl? ;-)

BTW -- can you tell I'm a girl, too? Or does my name look like a young kid saying "yes, mom".... hmmmm

gordele

2:26 pm on Aug 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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well I feel a little better now, I think then those are rumors or people who violated the TOS and want to feel better by saying there was no reason for them to be banned. Im sure you guys are right, if I follow the TOS there is no reason to be suspended...

but one last question, what happens when there is click attack? do people get suspended?

europeforvisitors

2:33 pm on Aug 16, 2005 (gmt 0)



but one last question, what happens when there is click attack? do people get suspended?

Not in my experience.

Obviously, you need to have a site that will pass a manual review.

Also, if you do see a suspicious jump in clicks and earnings, report your discovery to AdSense Support. That will be a point in your favor, since publishers who are stealing from advertisers aren't likely to report their crimes to Google.

Paris

2:59 pm on Aug 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Most click attacks are not from AdSense. It's one AdWords customer trying to drain another AdWords advertiser of his/her marketing budget.

Google's no dummy. It sees the repeated clicks and credits them back to the advertiser. Why? Because it's good business AND the right thing to do. If an advertiser saw money fly out the window without decent leads Google AdWords would be toast.

There is no harm in checking into what Yahoo! has going on with its own AdSense clone -- and other ad network options -- but that doesn't mean that you should worry about it as long as you are being true.

aeiouy

3:38 pm on Aug 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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some inocent webmasters have been banned with aparently no reason,

Care to name some?

ember

3:49 pm on Aug 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Stop being a girl? That seems to imply that there is something wrong with being a girl. I am not a girl, but I am a woman (as is any female 18 or older) and can play with the big "boys" any day, UK_Webber.

ann

2:30 am on Aug 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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since I am a great grandmother I guess I qualify as an "old Girl"
:-)

Ann

Alioc

3:06 am on Aug 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Be in touch with AdSense team but don't over do it. Better if you show them who you are and not another one dreaming to become an AdSense millionaire within several years. Remember that you're not alone and Google staff can see who's doing what and how. And yes, they're getting paid to do their job and they have no luxury of getting tired of monitoring invalid clicks.

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As for that "being a girl" issue I might add that as some guys think the earth is made by US, some think it is driven by males only.

Ignorance adds to the value of wisdom and is neccessary to see the difference...

Swebbie

4:41 am on Aug 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I would like the record to show that I am not a girl. But I like 'em. A lot. OK, carry on.

golden14

9:54 am on Aug 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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If you see a pattern of spurious clicks that you are suspicious of then write to google's adsense support desk immediately. I am told this alleviates the majority of problems. I'm only guessing but if they can get the ip address of the other person then your jealous competitor may be the one who finds themselves banned!