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They also said that The earnings on My account will be properly returned to the affected advertisers.
I am sure that the Affected Advertisers got many sales from my side.
This was the first time I did business with G, and the results are too worse. Don't have any idea how did they realate me to any others account. Or simply they cheated me, because, since my account is disabled I have send many polite emails about the cause. But No REPLY.
So, I lost my 2,689$
I'm guessing that might include accounts that have some, almost any, kind of association.
The problem is, as always with Google and Adsense, we don't really know what all the criteria for such actions are.
Could that include things like, family members, other relatives, similar names (bob smith, john smith) in the same town with similar postal addresses, ip addresses, etc, etc, etc. The list of possibilities could go on and on.
Whatever the current situation actually is, this can be a real problem for some honest publishers, and shouldn't be dismissed easily.
1. If you are really innocent and have NO IDEA why Google might think you have some connection to a banned account, start racking your brain why they would think that. Think about yourself and those close to you, employees and users who have a close connection to your site, the history of your domain, etc. etc. Even if you draw a blank, send another email protesting your innocence.
2. If you have SOME clue you haven't shared with us why Google might be connecting you with a banned account, come clean with Google. Make whatever apologies or explanations you have to, and maybe you can get reinstated.
3. If you know perfectly well why Google banned you and you're simply venting, just take your ball and go home. Nothing you say here will hurt Google because you're a first-time poster with no history here, thus nobody can really know whether you are being straight or not.
why punish some small business owner by clicking on his ads for no reason? If you really plan on doing that, I'm happy you got screwed.
Start a "Google sucks" site, or even sue them in Pakistani courts (IF you're totally innocent) but don't punish people who had nothing to do with this.
I don't know if these linked-to sites belong to you or other people, but if they belong to other people it might be that one of these others was also suspended from AdSense. Because of the sidewide links Google might assume that there is more than casual relationship between your site and those other sites.
If Google clearly states that they have found you to be associated with a banned account, probably they would not say so unless they have a smoking gun -unless of course there is a major misunderstanding on their part.
Were you affiliated in any way with someone that was banned from Adsense?
By "affiliated" I mean things like substantial cross linking with that individual's site(s), being part of a link-network that includes sites that were previously banned, or having other indicators (such as similarity in names, street addresses, etc) suggestive of close affiliation? Did you share computer(s) with someone that was banned?
Not accusing you of any of the above, just thinking aloud...
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Again, if it's a long bow, my apologies.
Well at first i thought this post is not the regular song "of i got disabled what can i do" but now i see this is same song but tone has been changed. The guy is furious and knows somewhere he missed something which google caught and disabled him.
so the fact is this is not his first account got disabled the guy is pro he already might have been suspended and then reapplied in other name and then he got suspended again bec he left his previous sites links.
For my ebook i have listed all of the adsense disabled sites urls, some one please sticky me his url too. and may be i can compare to my list and tell you which site he had previously . It's not really hard to find someones association with previous disabled account if the guy has good traffic or making good money, because he will use same tricks again and again.
Google is going to Pay for it somehow, and I will plan how, even if it affects the Advertisers
Well now that you're threatening Google AND the advertisers I truly hope you don't get back into the program as you've proven not to be mature enough to deal with the business realities and your reactions don't pass the sniff test of a truly innocent person.
I could be jumping to conclusions though...
I wish Johnplayer could come back in here and clarify his position. I always prefer to think that someone genuine has been caught in a mistake by Google - then the prson gets angry, makes threats, and leaves the thread :-(
Never underestimate the power of the internet
I dont think Google will ban anyone with such clear reference to the reason, unless they have a clear proof.
BUT,,... with such posts rising, we all have our own set of doubts about the list of reasons that google fires someone.
It is high time that this should be left to speculation by Google. I guess each banned case should be publically listed, with URL, and the banning reason.
This is also help google to get very high credibity with advertisers as well as publishers.
Google, make the people who cheat you, be bare in open.
( its like public hanging on websites that wronged, so that everyoen knows and fears the cheating )
One of your domain name may be used by someone else in the past mis-using adsense and may get banned from adsense.
so, he / she might left that domain name without renewing it. You might purchased that domain name without knowing its previous records.
This might be one of the reason for your adsense ban.
Note : English not my first language, so there may be some grammatical mistakes. please bear.
The problem is, as always with Google and Adsense, we don't really know what all the criteria for such actions are.
Google Cheated me, and I hate cheaters. Google is going to Pay for it somehow, and I will plan how, even if it affects the Advertisers
With that kind of attitude, it makes me wonder if you were engaged in fraudulent activity from the very start. If that's the case, I'll congratulate G on keeping Adsense as pure as possible and letting honest webmasters make a buck.
BUT, I find it to early to conclude that johnplayer is an alias of another user on WebmasterWorld. The user you are probably pointing at does not have any references in the profile to this or other websites. Also, in his posts about AdSense in the past he mentioned earnings at a far lower level than johnplayer in this thread.
So, unless there is more information I believe the connection between these two WW users is just accidental.
Obviously if somebody is cheating then they deserve to be pulled, but it is just not fair to kick somebody out without a proper or any explanation. I am not taking either side in this present argument, but the fact they can do this at the push of a button is just not right, and is very bad PR.
I am sure if it was a google employee that got fired without notice or explanation, then lawsuits would be flying all over the place.
The only point I would comment on in this thread is if the original poster is savvy enough to run websites with so much traffic, it is a little surprising he had never heard of adsense upto recently.
I do think Google country or region profile when looking for dodgy business dealings, and in all probablity this guy comes from one of them, although that is not to say he is doing anything wrong, just perhaps he comes from a bad Neighborhood!
Google is going to Pay for it somehow, and I will plan how, even if it affects the Advertisers.
I suspect that's the reason google are no longer replying to you.
A business-like tone in emails, and attempts to get the issue resolved in a business-like manner, in my experience of reading these types of thread here, makes the distinction between google working with you, or writing you off.
TJ
BUT, I find it to early to conclude that johnplayer is an alias of another user on WebmasterWorld.
Lammert, in essence I agree with you and would prefer to let JP clarify himself. Witch hunts achieve very little. But I was more making the point that he does have a direct connection to other AS accounts, one of which could have been disabled, which was what he was unable to understand in his original post.
To clarify, the sole reason I was convinced they are either one and the same, or at least have a very strong working relationship, is because of the use of a particular PPL banner. The 'other' member previously made mention of very high earnings using this banner and I remember thinking at the time that it was unusual (given the type of audience he might have). He gave more than enough information in that discussion to find his site, I believe.
So then along comes Mr. Player who also uses the same banner, has a reference to the other member's site, both domains registered in one name, both from the same country, and share the same IP range.
It doesn't matter if they are the same person or not. All I'm suggesting is that there is possibly enough there to illustrate connections to other AS accounts and that's where the original poster should be looking for answers rather than threatening Google and the advertisers.
So then along comes Mr. Player who also uses the same banner, has a reference to the other member's site, both domains registered in one name, both from the same country, and share the same IP range.
Don't think we need Perry Mason for this one.
I guess each banned case should be publically listed, with URL, and the banning reason.
That will NEVER happen. Google would find themselves open to a barrage of law suits that would have the opposite effect of what we want - the elimination of the cheaters.
Don't think we need Perry Mason for this one.
... and if a WebmasterWorld member can sniff it out then I have no doubt that google can.
TJ
Whomever is right or wrong the fact remains Google should realise many people are doing webmastering and working with the adsense program to create a living income, and to just give somebody the chop is like firing somebody without notice.
The contract between the publisher and Google lets both sides terminate the relationship without notice. As the expression goes, "what's good for the goose is good for the gander."
Obviously if somebody is cheating then they deserve to be pulled, but it is just not fair to kick somebody out without a proper or any explanation.
Johnplayer was given an explanation.
Google Cheated me, and I hate cheaters. Google is going to Pay for it somehow, and I will plan how, even if it affects the Advertisers
[edited by: John_Carpenter at 4:28 pm (utc) on Aug. 7, 2005]
I agree. If I was working for Google and read a threat like that, I'd go out of my way to find a reason to ban you.
Clear case of GREED and playing the system.
Ann
Good work, Google.
