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[edited by: Jenstar at 9:45 pm (utc) on July 30, 2005]
[edit reason] Language & politics [/edit]
By banning educational gay site, Google has discriminated against us.
6. Google may at any time, in its sole discretion, terminate all or part of the Program, terminate this Agreement, or suspend or terminate the participation of any Site in all or part of the Program for any reason.
That document had to be agreed to by you when opening your account and is still available at [google.com...]
They could have suspended your account simply because 5 clicks a day isn't worth maintaining an account....
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Read further down on item 6. where it states "In addition, Google reserves the right to terminate without notice any account that has not generated a sufficient number of valid clicks on or valid impressions of Ads (as measured by Google) for a period of two (2) months or more."
If you really think that the reason for closing your account was the specific content of your site, you might have a good chance to be reinstated. There were more cases here on WW, where AdSense stopped showing ads on sites with specific content that were first approved but later rejected by another site reviewer. But if my memory works well, in all those cases the publisher received a message about the site content, not an invalid clicks email.
Asking Google to reconsider their decision is always a good thing, but remember that invalid clicks can have many meanings. AdSense closes accounts to protect advertisers for paying too much for bogus or not converting clicks, which is much broader than clicking on your own oads.
Looking at the type of content you describe I wouldn't be surprised if there was either a click attack by someone rejecting your way of life, or a supporters attack by someone who wanted to support you in an anonymous way with regular clicks. In both cases those clicks are invalid an might have caused the termination.
[edited by: Jenstar at 9:46 pm (utc) on July 30, 2005]
[edit reason] Politics [/edit]
Read further down on item 6. where it states "In addition, Google reserves the right to terminate without notice any account that has not generated a sufficient number of valid clicks on or valid impressions of Ads (as measured by Google) for a period of two (2) months or more."
The Contractor, AdSenseAdvisor answered in this thread [webmasterworld.com...] at message #29, that until now that rule has never been used to terminate an account. So this is probably not the reason for closing the account.
To jump to the conclusion that it is discrimination is reaching out pretty far imho. Besides, it's against this boards TOS to talk of lawsuits etc.
[edited by: Jenstar at 10:00 pm (utc) on July 30, 2005]
[edited by: Jenstar at 9:46 pm (utc) on July 30, 2005]
[edit reason] Politics [/edit]
If your site was rejected when initially applied, then you might have an argument for discrimination. But you were approved so it is not the case.
Yes, people have been suspended because of the content on their site(s). But the termination email clearly states that the suspension is due to a content/policy issue. Your termination email cites invalid clicks.
I also think you can ignore that talk about insufficient clicks/impressions. That's a fairly new rule and people are kind of waiting for some webmaster to get terminated over that clause. But if Google ever do that they're not going to send you the "invalid clicks" email.
The problem may not be your content rather the ads that might appear as a result of your content!
No offence intended but that has to be the most illogical statement of the week...you are saying that google accepts publishers to their system, serves the ads to the guy´s page and they then ban him for it?
That is exactly what I am saying. People using adwords do slip in prohibited ads, hoping to make a few bucks before being caught out. If somebody publishes a site with content that has even a remote relationship to the adwords ads, those ads can show up on the publishers page. So a site discussing the medical aspects of Homosexuality can end up
displaying ads for "Gay Studs", and stuff like that, which most people just do not wish to see on their pages.
As a footnote, I do not know if the member that started this topic, is qualified to provide such, "educational", information as indicated by himself, or is just expressing his own opinion. Giving advice on such a complicated subject has to be limited to people professionally qualified to do so.
Therefore I suspect that your discrimination case would fall flat on it's face.
You may be better advised to try and work with adsense (without any attitude!) to try and resolve this. If you ask to be passed to a senior advisor they will do that.
"It's not my fault, I was discriminated against!"
Why can't people just admit they fubar'd something?
Perhaps their self esteem is so low they would have a nervous breakdown if they admitted they messed up. Claiming discrimination is some kind of defense mechanism for self preservation against a total nervous break down.
I respect someone a lot more when they just admit, "I screwed up" instead of trying to shift the blame to someone else in a pathetic attempt to dodge taking responsibility for their actions.
This whole discrimination claim is just sad really.
Why do people hide from personal responsibility by waving the discrimination flag?"It's not my fault, I was discriminated against!"
Why can't people just admit they fubar'd something?
Perhaps their self esteem is so low they would have a nervous breakdown if they admitted they messed up. Claiming discrimination is some kind of defense mechanism for self preservation against a total nervous break down.
I respect someone a lot more when they just admit, "I screwed up" instead of trying to shift the blame to someone else in a pathetic attempt to dodge taking responsibility for their actions.
This whole discrimination claim is just sad really.
You said it Freedom! I could not agree more! Sheesh! Get out from your discrimination chair and stop worrying about your 5 clicks that were. My suggestions is to move on. If you only had 5 clicks, then you didn't make squat and I would say "pick your battles" instead of not taking responsibility for the actions herein.
by the way, can u think of people who are envious of ur site and may have caused click floods?
54 pages is a lot of pages...is it thaaaat complicated a subject?
Google may not like the perception of giving medical advice or opinion on a contentious subject, by somebody unqualified to do so.
Google may not like the perception of giving medical advice or opinion on a contentious subject, by somebody unqualified to do so.
There is no information given by the starter of this thread about his qualifications. He might be a professional health worker writing articles about his experience and publishing them on the net. Furthermore if the closing of the account was content related, Google would have mentioned it in their email.
I smell discrimination here
I smell conspiracy minded paranoia.
Why don't you just write to Google and just ask them what's up instead of making all sorts of wild accusations?
If they only found invalid clicks, your statements above are possibly a violation of the terms and conditions as you just crossed the line with "... engage in any action or practice that reflects poorly on Google or otherwise disparages or devalues Google’s reputation or goodwill" which claims of banning gays surely does.
If you have nothing to do with the invalid clicks then explain yourself, offer to give them copies of your log files and assist in any way possible, yada yada, they've re-instated accounts before.
