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Another thought: AdSense publishers get somehow forced to use just ONE account for all their sites. Allthough that's pretty comfortable for publishers they somehow reveal their secrets - they get pretty transparent in what sites they run, how their sites are built, seo'd, connected, related, prob duplicated ... What are your thoughts about this? (I'm not moaning, so please no monopoly whining talk.)
Yes, I agree that is does become transparent when you have that AdSense code that can be tracked across domains. It doesn't appear to be searchable, if someone is trying to scout out your domains, but perhaps not enough time has passed yet to do that.
There are plenty of ecommerce sites running AdSense right now. And there are many who don't want their family of ecommerce sites linked together for their competitors knowledge.
It comes down to finding the balance and determining if the benefits of AdSense outweigh the risks of someone determining which sites are all owned by the same person or company.
The way of thinking of the cunning webmaster is now at the Google teams hands. When they are planning the algorithms of the future they have all this lovely webmaster inner secrets. I know it sounds paranoid but 'Hey even paranoid people get followed'
It looks like if there could be a choice among a few on one given page it's the *keyword* that would most likely get the most impressions in search and go for the highest value per click among them that there's the most of.
I put the ads up on only a few pages from a few completely different sites and it looks like it's done not only by site theme but by individual pages, picking up on specifics very accurately.
I put the ads up on only a few pages from a few completely different sites and it looks like it's done not only by site theme but by individual pages, picking up on specifics very accurately.
Hmm, this sound like mediabot is doing a good job in detecting the theme by on page factors. My experience too - it's sometimes amazing. However, you don't think it would raise a flag if a account has been used only on widgets sites and from one day to the next also on a examples site?
Jenstar, my fear is not that competitors could track down what sites i run. What concerns me is - what Sense_able said - that google themself get a pretty detailed map of your pages / your work. I have mixed feelings about the idea that i'm that transparent to google if i participate in the AdSense programm. Also, if a webmaster runs adsense on different sites and just one of his sites gets target of fraudulant clicks or gets in trouble because of other things that google doesn't like, his other pages may suffer too - the account gets trashed and with it all pages and sites that ever published the correspoding code ...
I perfectly understand Google's intention. It's legit and they don't force me to publish AdSense. I'm just trying to weight the pro and contra.
When they are planning the algorithms of the future they have all this lovely webmaster inner secrets. I know it sounds paranoid but 'Hey even paranoid people get followed'A bit paranoid too ...
determining if the benefits of AdSense outweigh the risksThat's what i'm trying to do.
determining if the benefits of AdSense outweigh the risks
I sometimes have to ask what keeps me awake at night. Is it the fear of being axed from adsense, or the google algorithm writers knowing my every move. Mind that could be arrogance mixed in with my paranoia. I am assuming that I might be so important. (lol)
they get pretty transparent in what sites they run, how their sites are built, seo'd, connected, related, prob duplicated
It is safest to use two accounts as you don't lose all your income if you are unfairly thrown off on the fraudulent click claim.
However, using one account rather than two accounts doesn't give Google that much more information.
Just posting the adsense code is enough to give Google a lot of information on your site, a lot of detailed stats including where people are accessing your site from, what route they take through your site, how long they stay on pages, which continent they are in, what their mother's maiden name is. They also get detailed information on page views, which pages are more popular, increases and decreases in traffic to specific pages in your site and what your shoe size is. When they combine that information with all the other information they have at their disposal like which pages are showing up in SERPS and where, information from the toolbar calling home etc they know how many hairs you have on your head.
AdSense publishers get somehow forced to use just ONE account for all their sites
I don't think they do. I wrote to Google saying I wanted to use two different accounts and they replied to say that they'd prefer I didn't but I was free to do that if I wanted.
They do reply with proper replies that address the question raised.
Multiple accounts held by the same individual or entity are subject to immediate termination.
[google.com...]I suspect this is there so that if they suspend your first account, they have the power to then terminate all your accounts, even if only one has suspicious activity.
I also suspect that they would put a domain block on those URLs as well (similar to what they do when a URL is rejected for AdSense) so that you couldn't put a second account's AdSense code onto the same site that has been suspended previously by AdSense.
I requested that I be allowed to use two accounts on two different sites I control - one account for each site.
That's what they said would be acceptable to them. I suspect that in that scenario - and if I use completely different email addresses and payee names - it is unlikely that both accounts will be closed for any third-party caused fraudulent click problem.
