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Clicks up, earnings down...

How can this be? Anyone else?

         

PFOnline

12:57 am on Oct 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hope this doesn't break Adsenses or WW's TOS...

I noticed a sharp drop in earnings a couple of weeks or so ago, but was waiting for it to rebound, but so far it hasn't and it has finally made me curious enough to write about it.

I managed to almost double my click through rate and clicks recently, but the daily earnings are now actually less than a few weeks ago...

The other day it said like 50 clicks for a grand total of $1.50 ...

Has anyone else noticed a drop in what you earn per click?

div01

1:03 am on Oct 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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You are ok as long as you don't post numbers...in my case, today has been nothing to write home about, but its been pretty steady overall.

hyperkik

2:18 am on Oct 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Sometimes I get the impression that the two sets of figures (clicks and earnings) don't always update simultaneously. That is, sometimes it seems like one figure lags behind the other. If that impression is correct, it could explain your observation - you may see a sudden increase in your earnings hours later.

Whatever the cause of variations in daily performance or earnings, I try to avoid making undue assumptions based upon a single day's statistics, or even those from several consecutive days. Given my site's traffic, and Google's understandable withholding of the data which might shed light on variations in performance, I can't personally derive any statistically significant information from short-term results.

onfire

9:49 am on Oct 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yes I am seeing this too, and given that its the start of the month and the Adwords budgets for the month should be full & ready for a new campaign, the last 3 days has seen the same amount of traffic come my way, and the CTR & impressions are about normal, but what's showing up in the kitty is half of what it normally is.

jackburton2000

10:08 am on Oct 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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adsense is weird in that they don't tell you how much certain ads or worth per click, etc. sometimes i'll see a dozen clicks and make less than .10 cents on them, and sometimes I'll see only 2 clicks but I've made over $2.00 on them! Really weird. I wish I knew what those clicks were so I could maximize it or something...

kittykat

4:22 pm on Oct 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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yeah i have seen the same. clicks up +/-250%, earnings up only +/-65% over same period last month.

google has great advantage because they can modify payout rates at will...

maybe G just needs a little bit of extra cash ,-)

JollyK

6:40 pm on Oct 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Same here. I've been tracking daily earnings in a spreadsheet, and there has been an upward trend for impressions and clicks and a downward trend in earnings per click.

Maybe Adsense just doesn't have enough ads for all my new impressions. heheh

loanuniverse

6:56 pm on Oct 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Impressions = up (about 30%)
CTR = up
Per click earning = up
Earnings = up

when the first seven full days are compared with September.

bignet

8:04 pm on Oct 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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impressions halved ctr worse than halved i had to check websites are still up

ap_Rhys

8:39 pm on Oct 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Impressions = up (about 30%)
CTR = down
Per click earning = down
Earnings = up
when the first seven full days are compared with September

cornwall

8:44 pm on Oct 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>>I've been tracking daily earnings in a spreadsheet, and there has been an upward trend for impressions and clicks and a downward trend in earnings per click.

One can draw the conclusion from this thread that we are all looking at different situations..

..in my case earnings per click has been much more constant that CTR.

I can only conclude that it depends on which niche you are in, as to what you perceive to be happening. If Google were to be conducting a slow move in changing their percentage payments per click, then one assumes we would all see the same pattern, but we do not.

Congratulations to the guys at Google if they have been doing this, but I have not been able to pick it up

bignet

8:59 pm on Oct 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It is even harder to tell if you have multiple sites appealing to different niche markets

europeforvisitors

9:54 pm on Oct 8, 2003 (gmt 0)



adsense is weird in that they don't tell you how much certain ads or worth per click, etc.

If publishers knew what AdSense advertisers were paying and whose ads were racking up the most clicks, they could go directly to the advertisers and cut deals on their own. So it makes perfect sense for Google to withhold that kind of information.

Similarly, it would be foolish for Google to announce its payout formula (which may be more complex than a simple percentage split). This has nothing to do with cheating publishers; it's simply a matter of making life harder for competitors. If a Google competitor knew how Google determined its payouts, it could cherrypick the most profitable categories or publishers by offering a larger cut.

As for whether clicks are up and earnings are down, my own experience is mixed this month. I'm not doing as well as I was at the height of the summer travel-planning season (not surprising, given the time of year), but I'm doing better than I was in late September--probably because my advertisers aren't having their "It's near the end of the month and I've spent my September budget" blues.

davewray

5:41 am on Oct 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Best day ever for me in terms of revenue based on almost 100 days worth of stats. I logged in early this morning...ten minutes later I refreshed and saw it go up one click...but the amount I had made went WAY up! This one click was 32 times more than my average click! God, I love days like that. I figure some poor sucker who is new to Adwords must have accidentally added another zero to his/her bid or something...that mistake would be quite a rude awakening for them! (Or, it could just be I fluked out :)....Or, perhaps the clicks weren't updating as fast as the revenue was :)

Dave.

Blue_Fin

5:54 am on Oct 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It could be due to broad matching which was just implemented.

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bignet

1:56 am on Oct 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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and AdSense in many tongues, less competition, less money to adsnese hosts

markus007

6:16 am on Oct 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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my EPC has gone up sharply since last week.