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New Google AdSense case study released

         

Jenstar

6:02 am on Jul 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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[google.com...]

A small-scale publisher this time. Although there is nothing very noteworthy in this one, it is interesting to see that they selected a publisher with lower page views (500 uniques per day) and one that isn't really using the common "cutting edge" ad unit optimization techniques.

They also updated a couple of the news stories too:
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YesMom

6:37 am on Jul 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thanks, Jenstar!

Even though the Medical Coding site isn't using completely blended ads in the "hot spot", they sure achieved a nice look. AdSense, in this case, really seems to add extra value to their site content.

I'm sure that is one reason Google chose to feature that site! LOL

Funny... I used to do medical billing in my pre-entrepeneurial days. That was a blast from the past. ;-)

BeeDeeDubbleU

6:51 am on Jul 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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ASIDE:
I wonder what effect these case studies have on click through on these sites? As a consequence of the feature the number of people visiting the site will be artificially inflated and probably by a high margin. Invitably some of the visitors will click the ads even though they are not interested in the content. Does Google allow these inflated clicks to go through?

YesMom

6:55 am on Jul 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I was wondering the same thing, BeeDee...

Maybe Google works something out in advance with them... or maybe the income from AdSense is not as important to them and they are trading off with "test mode" ads for the extra publicity?

ogletree

6:57 am on Jul 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I wonder if the owner of the site gives the person that chose them kickbacks. Seems like quite the scam.

Powdork

7:37 am on Jul 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Does Google ever check these sites? Look at the code. They are using the UdmComment tag to stuff keywords. My understanding is that this is normally used to keep an internal search from returning a page with the words on it. For instance, if the word 'books' is part of your nav menu and someone searches on your site for 'books' you don't want your internal search engine to return every page. It is clearly not why it is used here and if you search for the terms in the tag, pages with the tag are returned and the stuff inside the tag is used as the snippet.

From the Adsense Policies

Site May Not Include

# Excessive, repetitive, or irrelevant keywords in the content or code of web pages
# Deceptive or manipulative content or construction to improve your site's search engine ranking, e.g., your site's PageRank
Now I am not saying what they are doing is all that bad, just that holding them up as an example only serves to cloud the issues in their policies.

Just out of curiosity, what is the Overture Services Code on the pages?

oddsod

12:42 pm on Jul 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"AdWords sends qualified leads my way," says Dr. Carter.

Promoting Adwords: Two birds with one stone. :)

MetalType

1:30 pm on Jul 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I noticed when you go to the XML Feeds page you get a popup asking if you want to subscribe to their newsletter. Isn't this against Google's TOS?

Frequent

1:40 pm on Jul 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I went to their site map and hit the back button and got the pop-up. I then tried the back button again to get back to the $G case study page and it wouldn't let me go back. I had to manually select the previous page from the drop down. I really can't believe that's within TOS, but if it is I have a few sites that could benefit as well...

Freq---

stuartc1

2:00 pm on Jul 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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something not quite right about this site - looks like some sneaky techniques are in play here...
Using hidden text throughout is clearly only designed to pack the pages with keywords.
Also doing a site: command for the site - if finds a page called 'google_adsense_script.htm' which is interesting.

I may learn a lot from a site like this :) lol

vabtz

2:20 pm on Jul 15, 2005 (gmt 0)



wow that is pretty interesting. I am going to mirror the site before it gets nuked.

vabtz

2:21 pm on Jul 15, 2005 (gmt 0)



hidden keyword stuffing for sure

the udm commented text has this rule applied to it


.hotlink {
position:absolute;
left:800px;
top:800px;
width:100%;
display:none;
z-index:1;
}

Never_again

3:40 pm on Jul 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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you get a popup asking if you want to subscribe to their newsletter. Isn't this against Google's TOS?

Google does not disallow pop-ups. The TOS states that pop-ups are allowed as long as "they do not exceed a combined total of 5 per user session."

Rx Recruiters

4:51 pm on Jul 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>>>>I may learn a lot from a site like this :) lol <<<<

They must be doing something right - do a search for "medical coding" on Google, and the site ranks #3 and #4 (#4 is an indented result) out of 4,890,000. Not a big universe to be sure, but not bad results. I am sure that 90% of their refs come from Google, who obviously loves the site.

Anytime a site is featured in a case study is going to draw critisism - I would hate to have my site picked apart, but then again, the extra page views would be worth it it ;)

Anyway, it looks like Google loves the site's code, and obviously, the humans at Google like the site well enough to feature it, despite a little "keyword stuffing" in the HTML.

incrediBILL

4:56 pm on Jul 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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This is fascinating, good catch as it didn't occur to me to "look under the hood" when I took a look at the site. Making a case study of a site that not only violates AdSense rules but the search engines rules as well is definitely interesting as someone didn't look too closely before using it as a showcase site.

Perhaps we are being subliminally shown how to make a little site rank at the top by Google itself?

What will be most interesting is to see whether they post a "GOOGLE CANCELLED MY SITE" thread after everyone visits the site and clicks all the ads just to see who's paying top dollar :)

stardoc

6:20 pm on Jul 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I then tried the back button again to get back to the $G case study page and it wouldn't let me go back. I had to manually select the previous page from the drop down.

Well that happened with me as well, but only in firefox.

Undead Hunter

8:09 pm on Jul 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I'm always curious to see an ecommerce site like this running ads - you'd think it would cut down on their profit. Like advertising Target in the middle of a Wal-Mart...

TheRookie

7:16 am on Jul 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Those UdmComment tags are very interesting.

If Google doesn't act upon it, it sends a message that keyword stuffing is okay in their book.

Yahoo ranks them on page 2 for their keyword, while MSN ranks them #2. Sure looks like UdmComments aren't hurting, eh?

Powdork

7:46 am on Jul 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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If Google doesn't act upon it, it sends a message that keyword stuffing is okay in their book.
Not necessarily, from a search point of view they may want to phase it out with the algorithm which could take an update or they may just do it with an update to say it was done by the algo or they may do nothing (then what you say may be true). From the Adsense side they may not consider it that bad an offense.
It is strange though that they hold it up as the shining example, unless that's not what the case studies are for. "Who cares about da rulz, they use all three of our programs. Let's show the world how it works."

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Was the other health related site there before? I really like the way the ads are worked in to the page. Can everyone use that ad disclaimer? (Not neccesarily that one) Or is it a premium publisher type of thing? That looks like a shining example of how to blend in three ad blocks.

Visit Thailand

8:04 am on Jul 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I bet Verio is quite pleased with this, as I did not notice the hypthen in the domain at first! Just saw the logo and typed in the domain name.

ann

8:14 am on Jul 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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the whole page just seems to be one giant affiliates advertising...where is the "quality" content?

justonepost

8:22 am on Jul 19, 2005 (gmt 0)



What sucks about this is that I was called by AdSense to do a case study on my site and they chose THIS over me. WOW.

Yes, I am using a different name than my regular one. Just in case they call back and decide to use me for the next one ;-)

elsewhen

9:15 am on Jul 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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the site is also using a javascript tracking script from overture (visible in page source after UdmComment tag. real strange choice for a google case study.