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<snip standard AdSense disabled email>
I have responded to them, with the response saying there is no hope or being re-enabled. I have sent another response in, in hopes of a explanation atleast. I don't see how things could of gone wrong, but I had almost $150 in my account from slightly over a month of use, and never got my PIN, so I couldn't get a check. I used the ads over several websites which I manage and own, and also used the search bar on my personal and clients portal pages. Yes, I used my own google search and when I was looking at buying computer parts, which I do all the time, I do click the newegg.com ads, who wouldn't its a good place to buy from, which I buy stuff there at least once a week.
I have no clue what to do now, if they don't re-enable my account. What did I do wrong? I am considering small claims court, or looking into a class action lawysuit since, they provide NO information on why the account was terminated in the first place.
Should I look into alternatives?
Please advise?
[edited by: Jenstar at 7:45 pm (utc) on June 10, 2005]
[edit reason] No email quotes as per TOS, thanks! [/edit]
I am considering small claims court, or looking into a class action lawysuit since, they provide NO information on why the account was terminated in the first place.
I wish you luck, especially since you agreed to their terms.
What did I do wrong?
You clicked your own ads, you said. Search ads are ads too.
EDIT:Should I be using that tool they recommend to avoid a problem?
[edited by: mgpapas at 7:34 pm (utc) on June 10, 2005]
NO information on why the account was terminated
What did I do wrong?
I do click the newegg.com ads
the search part of the program, which I clicked ads
I think you answered your own question.
for your sake, i hope they dont cancel your account for the clicking you have already done.
best of luck, and welcome to webmasterworld!
Geez, and people worry about accidently clicking one ad.
Tell them, that You did not understand all terms of the TOS, and that the advertiser has no demage, because You purchased all this items.
Try it, at last, it can not make things more worth.
for $150? You do know that you can't sue them and that you agreed that they have the final say on the status of your account, oh, sorry I forgot, you didn't read their T&C's, oh well :(
They don't need to provide the information mate, plus its seems like you already know why your account was cancelled.
It seems like more trouble to visit your website, do a search, then click on the ad results in the search just to get to the newegg site.
It almost *seems* like you went out of your way to get paid for doing something you would have already been doing (making a purchase at newegg). So newegg paid for those clicks even though you were going to purchase at their site anyway.
You may want to look into other adsense alternatives in the Advertising and Affiliate programs forum, and use this as a learning experience to carefully read the terms of whichever advertising network you signup on.
Send Google a copy of all invoices from this computer company...
Yes, that's about your only option. Explain things.
Good luck to you, sounds like an honest mistake... now go convince Google of that!
Even if there's a 100% chance you'll buy something, you can't click your own ads!
So like Rodney wrote - you can't click your own ads ESPECIALLY if there's a 100% chance you'll buy something
as I recall from the description of the google search thingy, you don't get paid just for someone using it, but when that someone clicks on one of the companies involved with google and then the amount of money you get depends on how long did he stay, did he become a registered user, or did he BUY something
so yeah you probably got a couple of bucks back for every item you bought - if you ask me not a good enough discount for having your AdSense account removed
Edit:just found out something else if that link said http: (as it did before I edited this post) even though all the numbers are edited it will take you to popups from hell.... I wonder if all modified adsense links do that? the url was <snip> withouth the x's
[edited by: mgpapas at 8:55 pm (utc) on June 10, 2005]
[edited by: Jenstar at 10:52 pm (utc) on June 10, 2005]
[edit reason] No URLs/specifics as per TOS [/edit]
which now that I think of it is no different than clicking on the link
Was the URL you posted the one you got from the Adsense Preview Tool, or from an actual ad?
If it was from the Adsense Preview Tool, then the link is setup so that it doesn't charge the advertiser, so that is definitely different than clicking on an actual ad on your website (or Google Adsense search result).
While we're on the subject of policy ... I run a chat network and could easily do global messages encouraging people to go to the site and click some links (which I haven't done) as I have seen some private ragnarok online servers do. Is that against the TOS? I understand giving incentives to click is against the TOS but is simply asking people to click a violation? I mean it's just asking the people who benifit from what you give them for free to support your sponsor. That is generally the way I've seen it put "please visit the home page and click on the links and support our sponsors" Maybe they'll buy something but it's pretty unlikely so in a way long term it seems like you would just be hurting your CPM even if it is allowed.
since every pay per click company I've dealt with in the past only allowed one click per IP per day and I assumed adsense was the same and a single click wouldn't matter.
You may want to re-check with those companies and see if they actually allow the publishers in their networks to click "their own" ads.
The one click per IP per day restriction is just for normal surfers to help prevent fraud and accidental double clicks.
It's not in place so you can click your own ads once per day.
While we're on the subject of policy ... I run a chat network and could easily do global messages encouraging people to go to the site and click some links (which I haven't done) as I have seen some private ragnarok online servers do. Is that against the TOS? I understand giving incentives to click is against the TOS but is simply asking people to click a violation? I mean it's just asking the people who benifit from what you give them for free to support your sponsor. That is generally the way I've seen it put "please visit the home page and click on the links and support our sponsors"
This is also in the Terms of Service (that you should be reading and studying and re-reading :)
From this page:
[google.com...]
IncentivesWeb pages may not include incentives of any kind for users to click on ads. This includes encouraging users to click on the ads or to visit the advertisers' sites as well as drawing any undue attention to the ads. This activity is strictly prohibited in order to avoid potential inflation of advertiser costs. For example, your site cannot contain phrases such as "click here," "support us," "visit these links," or other similar language that could apply to any ad, regardless of content.
[edited by: Rodney at 9:19 pm (utc) on June 10, 2005]
How do you spell deja vu?
Lol, here we go again. :)
Well clearly their TOS doesn't cover the sutuation I mentioned, also it appears many on this forum are overly paranoid. I know several raganorok (game) servers that have been encouraging users for months to click their ads (I find it amussing that adsense even allows their ads since private RO servers are illegal).... and they are still adsense affiliates, while "I" understand the intent of that section of their TOS I also believe the majority of people (those who don't post or read this forum) have never really read the TOS in detail and interpret it the way they understand it, and in their opinion encoraging people to visting the website and click the links is not the same as "Web pages may not include incentives of any kind for users to click on ads. This includes encouraging users to click on the ads or to visit the advertisers' sites as well as drawing any undue attention to the ads." ie. the site isn't encouraging it I am doing so personally so it is allowed.
I think it's unlikely a google employee is going to join a raganarok server or a chat server for that matter to see what is going on. For better or worse.
[edited by: mgpapas at 10:49 pm (utc) on June 10, 2005]
Well clearly their TOS doesn't cover the sutuation I mentioned
Actually, it mentions what you are talking about exactly.
You originally posted asking for help, and when answered, you say the people answering your are paranoid.
Remember, your account was the one that was disabled. We're just trying to help you understand why.
Just because you see other people breaking the TOS, doesn't mean that Google allows it. It could be that Google doesn't know about it (yet), but as you see in this forum, Google does check up on these things if they see patterns happening or if someone reports it to them, so it's usually just a matter of time.
"You originally posted asking for help, and when answered, you say the people answering your are paranoid.
Remember, your account was the one that was disabled. We're just trying to help you understand why."
I'm not clicking on my own ads (well not after the first couple of days, maybe 20 of 5k CTR's) and I'm not communicating with anyone to explain.... I think you have me confused with the person who started this thread. And to the second quote, maybe not paranoid but stupid because my account wasn't disabled, learn to read lol
EDIT: And people ask me why I usually avoid forums :-)
[edited by: mgpapas at 10:57 pm (utc) on June 10, 2005]
