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I also remember the other 2 threads started by rfung the first making $20/day aiming for $100/day and the second aiming for $300/day and still saying he is among the low earners and is no place to play with the BIG guys. If rfung with such a revenue is among the small or mini publishers, then sure I belong to the micro group. Just thougt to start a hope thread for those still like myself in the micro-club.
My Earnings
Sep 2004 $0.31
Oct 2004 $0.54
Nov 2004 $1.12
Dec 2004 $0.69
Jan 2004 $2.75
Feb 2005 $3.33
Mar 2005 $6.27
Apr 2005 $38.41
May 2005 $65.63
This means I was able to reach $2 a day last month. Now I aim at reaching $5 a day in 3 months time. Yes a modest goal, but to me it is a big one ;)
So who's interested in showing his/her earnings for a refresher on the topic.
[A hope the topic does not divert away from its original aim: sharing with others stats about your revenue.]
Hi Shafaki, I see no point in sharing raw income figures.
Hanslicht, I would have LOVED to share ALL my stats with everyone, sure it helps a lot, but according to the G TOS, I'm only allowed to disclose my gross income, nothing else from the AdSense stats. But sure I can share with you info about the site itself, but not the other AdSense stats (like CTR, eCPM, ... etc).
The low earnings you see at the top came from my blogs. I started by putting AdSense in one of my blogs after reading "There is Money in My Blog" article at Blogger. My blog was hosted freely at blogspot. Later on, I read someone say that a web site would get much better earnings from AdSense than a blog. So, I summoned the courage and got hosting and a domain name and started my first web site. I think that was in November maybe.
My earnings did get up, from the web site, not from the blogs. Then the sinking of earnings in the following month were due to my tampering with the site design which rendered my site look SO ugly and totally unprofessional. (the site navigation was horrible from the start too).
Then I worked on the site navigation, and earnings got up. I then put a desing that looked more professional (actually took the one of my blog, and did some modifications to the CSS and HTML, but the basic colors and fonts were the same). I added new content to the site along with time. My site is 83 pages now of textual content, not a single graphic file in the whole site! (Thougth I'm planning to put at least a logo, I'm not good at graphics). Using Dreamweaver templates helped a lot when adding new articles. Yet I'm looking for a different solution now for my new site so as to be even easier than the Dreamweaver templates.
My site is about IT Jobs in Egypt and has a couple of articles relating to HR stuff. I've written every single word in my site. All content I wrote myself. (It has also a section on training, but does not make much in the stats). I cannot disclose my CTR nor CPM, but let me say my CTR is fine, relatively above average, and my CPM is normally not high.
I get around 250 impressions per day. (I can disclose this one, as it is not AdSense stuff, it's my site's stats as a site.) By the way, while we're on the topic, I've been using statcounter (the free version still) some weeks ago, and it is wonderful. Sure I was like a blind person not using such stat tools. They do help you see the navigation path of visitors and help you a lot determine info about the site, which helps you know where to enhance and what to give priority to.
Back to our subject. I have submitted to search engines and directories. Submitting to search engines was not important as they'll come running after your site anyway if you had someone good link to you. A link in DMOZ to my site gave it an instant boost from PR 0 to PR 3. Search engines, directories, links, I think all this though important, has NOT yet really contributed to my traffic! So from where then do I get my traffic?
[I put links in my blogs to my site too. It helps with search engines a lot.]
I have a 4000 member Yahoo Group! which I moderate from 3 years. It's about IT Jobs in Egypt. This is where I drive a lot of my traffic. But I get higher CTR (and maybe also better CPM) from other moderated Yahoo groups about HR in India. I answer relevant questions there then drop a link to my site at the relevant article in the HR section (I still have a few of those articles, maybe less than 10 only).
Depending on such methods as Yahoo Groups to get traffic are sure very exhausting and guarantee you no stream of automatic traffic in the future. But I'm using it for now and trying HARD to find other methods for getting traffic work for me (serch engines, perhaps also links, and maybe in the future offline ads as many suggested are very effective).
That's about it. I hope that helped. I also hope I've not went so far as to violate any part of Google's TOS.
[edited by: shafaki at 11:34 pm (utc) on June 1, 2005]
I also remember the other 2 threads started by rfung the first making $20/day aiming for $100/day and the second aiming for $300/day and still saying he is among the low earners and is no place to play with the BIG guys.
Yep, rfung was an inspiration, and I'm somewhere in the middle of where he was aiming and breaking $150/day but I'm stuck trying to get to the next level of $200/days.
All you can do is keep working on it.
I'll finally be able to afford a home in California and stop renting! MAYBE!
Diverman, shoot a little lower, get a condo - even condo's in our area went up in value almost $100K in No. CA last year, a nice investment :)
-Alex
I've just completed my first month with adsense and made a few hundred dollars and expected to earn $100 per week in that first month.
I fully intend earn a good living from it but certainly won't rely upon it for my sole source of revenue because who knows how long it will last?
I analyzed serveral initial earnings (include mine) and found at very begin the earning increases as a exponential function of the months.
For example, the earning of shafaki.
However, this can not be lasted for ever. It may stuck somewhere. For me, it stucks after 9 months of setting up the new web. This stuck piont (or turning point) IMHO is very important. This will give you some general information about how long the new web will be matured and what the strategy you may take into account in next step.
Here we have too many segment information of what others earnings and lack of the historical earning data. If we can share the historical data and the turning points, all we newbies may benifit from them.
It doesn't tell you how long they have been promoting adsense.
It doesn't tell you how may channels they operate, or how many sites.
It doesn't tell you what product or service area.
It simply tells you that others are earning more or less tan you are.
Look at your own stats, learn and practice better optimisation techniques, build links, market and promote. Nobodys crops grew bigger and better whilst watching their neighbours.
I initially used a long virtical ad unit on the right side of the page. Revenue was so poor.
I then, after knowing about the heat map, placed a horizontal ad unit (the one with space for 2 text ads) right below the title of the page (which was an <h1> tag) and before the body of the article, it was also in the center (the strongest point according to the heat map). Revenu increased considerably.
After reading Google's updated Optimization Tips page, I found an interesting note saying that ads at the very bottom of pages that have articles in them can be highly effective. It would have never occured to me, as I always thought that ads at the bottom of the page are the least effective and one would resort to them only to not annoy his/her visitors but would get less earnings from them. Anyway, after some time, I summoned enought couraged and put the ad unit (thte one with a size for 2 text ads) at the very bottom of each article. And guess what, my revenue increased to a considerable sum! It was amazing because it seamed counterintutive.
By the way, right from the start I blended my ads with the page (background color and frame color of ad units same as background color of page). Also link color same as link color of page, and title color (and description color) same as normal article text color.
I recently changed the color of the title in the ads to be same as the link color of my site. Revenue increased more.
Sometime, I hope to live from the Adsense icome, but this may take a couple more years of work.
If, after a few months, you're not making several hundred per day (net) you're doing it wrong. Or, at least, not doing it as well as it can be done. Stray outside the Adsense forum and you'll find enough info on WW alone to take you to that level. Take a step back, review your operations.