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What percentage of people are blocking AdSense?

We're up against a lot of ad-blockers

     
6:31 am on May 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Are there any published stats about how many browsers have Javascript disabled or have anti-ad systems installed, etc? What about the new Windows XP firewall?

What are we really up against here?

I'm wondering if there's a way to use the AdSense code inside an "include" statement so that it would be invoked at the server level instead of depending on the user's browser. Possible?

9:45 am on May 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Google "w3c web browsers statistics javascript"

Last stats are for January 2005.

January 2005

JavaScript On = 89%
JavaScript Off = 11%

11:26 am on May 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

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When I received our new XP Pro SP2 box back 8 months ago I had to download the Java program myself. Took some doing as the SP2 firewall kept trying to block it and Norton Antivirus went through it all as it was downloading and really slowed the process up.

Your average surfer isn't going to go to all that trouble.

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When I received our new XP Pro SP2 box back 8 months ago I had to download the Java program myself.

Do you mean Java or Javascript? Cause they are 2 very different things.

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Java, coz sun & MS fell out and they don't include it as default anymore.

It can be a bit of a bu**er downloading the JAVA classes. However, JS still comes as default.

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I'm wondering if there's a way to use the AdSense code inside an "include" statement so that it would be invoked at the server level instead of depending on the user's browser. Possible?

That makes no sense at all, unless I'm reading it wrongly. The Adsense code runs as JS via the local machine interpreter.

Basically, everybody will see the AS ads unless they switch off all JS parsing, or they install the dreaded NIS, or etc. Best bet is just to trall your logs looking for your stats, as people who have JS switched off are either techies or paranoids.

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I'm wondering if there's a way to use the AdSense code inside an "include" statement so that it would be invoked at the server level instead of depending on the user's browser. Possible?

It makes sense to me, it would get around ad blockers and the likes, but I dont know if google would allow it.

When the ad code is in JavaScript, G can go in and check on it any time they please.

When its in PHP, ASP, or something like that, they cant see the original code and therfore cant verify that it hasnt been modified.

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also, the types of people who have js disabled probably wouldnt click too many ads anyways

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they only need to download the virtual machine, I do 360 x 360 virtual tour images, I needed it too, to see my work, javascript is enabled by default
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I'm wondering if there's a way to use the AdSense code inside an "include" statement so that it would be invoked at the server level instead of depending on the user's browser. Possible?

It makes sense to me, it would get around ad blockers and the likes, but I dont know if google would allow it.

Can someone please explain this to me? I do not modify my AdSense code, but I do place them all within SSIs. Why would this not be allowed? Or are you saying that "getting around ad blockers" is what they wouldn't allow?

Thanks!

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Does anyone know if the AdSense folks think this is an issue or if they are looking into alternate display methods?
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Yes, it is possible to include AdSense ads directly in the page, and format it how you want. Tucows and AOL do this, IIRC. However, you have to be [really] big to do it. For one thing, it's easier to screw up. For another, as all the queries come from one IP, fraud would potentially be easier.

For bigger publishers, you can do all sorts of fun things; heck, they will even give you ads in XML if you want.

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Are there any published stats about how many browsers have Javascript disabled

Only .33% of the users of our site have Javascript disabled. We get over 200,000 page views per month. We are USA based and focus only on this market.