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I get 200 clicks a day from CJ but not a single sale.

         

asianguy

2:05 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)



I am planning to remove Commission Junction banners leaving adsense and search results only in the page.
My page displays search result scripts that i pasted along with adsense and CJ affiliates.

If i remove CJ, would i be able to use just Adsense and the scripts without violating the TOS?

I showed the same page before to Google and was approved. However, that page had banners and few text links categories but without a search box. This time, i wont put banner in it, nor text links or search box.

Would this look like made for adsense site in google's perspective?

spaceylacie

2:12 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I got rid of CJ on my sites earlier this month, per advice received on this forum. I finally decided to going ahead and boot them when their site(CJ.com) and all links to Ebay and their other affilates went dead for about 3 hours. Dead links on my site are un-acceptable!

They were sucking up over 10,000 clicks on one site alone and were barely paying $400.00 a month, 6 on a good month, for them. Those 10,000 clickers are now clicking on my Adsense ads, a bunch of them are at least.

spaceylacie

2:16 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"If i remove CJ, would i be able to use just Adsense and the scripts without violating the TOS? "

Of course! Google and Yahoo(who, at least partially, owns Ebay) are competitors. Drop them, Google will reward you.

spaceylacie

2:26 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Oh, I just realized that I'm talking to a scraper, sorry fellow board members. I read one sentence, out of context because it caught my eye.

Only search results on the page besides ads? Is it your own search engine with unique results(I believe you already said you scraped them but I'm asking to be polite).

That's against TOS unless you get special permission.

walkman

2:39 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)



"They were sucking up over 10,000 clicks on one site alone and were barely paying $400.00 a month"

wow. I'd be very happy if I got an extra 10000 clicks a month (based on my current earnings for click ratio). You should've made a LOT more than $500 or so..

asianguy

4:00 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)



spaceylacie, are you sure it's against the TOS if i put search results and adsense in the page without anything else? I thought the TOS stated that it's okey to put adsense in search result page.

The only difference of what i am doing is that i will be copying and pasting the search result in a page so that i can have more control of the relevancy of my metatags and adsense. Is this a violation of TOS?

What if i would add 8 category links and search box, would this be good enough?

I just dont want the CJ banners because getting a 200 more clicks a day without a sale is a lost income to adsense.

incrediBILL

4:17 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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You can put adsense on search results page - heck, if you're lucky they'll even be contextual to the search as AdSense seems to now be able to do real-time analysis of search pages or some such according to Jen and I've seen it work.

SpaceyLacie, not all search results pages mean scraper - my whole site it technically "search results" from my database :)

photo200

7:43 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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agree with Bill.
Also using it on a search results from my data base.
Gives nice relevant results.
Not shure about EPC, though.

asianguy

11:21 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)



IncreBill, is it legal to put just the search results and adsense without anything else, meaning it is a java script links and 3 unit adsense in the page only. No banners, no text links, no texts and no search box.

I am not sure if Google will think it is made for adsense site.

Anybody knows if this is a violation of the TOS?

petra

11:43 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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To be on the safe side you should ask google, send them an email and let us know what they say.

Edge

12:24 pm on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I beleive the TOS says you cannot have a page that is build to only display ads. Verify this please, but I think that means you need to have content of some sort on it other than navigation and adsense ads.

spaceylacie

3:46 pm on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have a search engine with a unique database, I did email Google about it and they said that I can use Adsense on my pages that display MY results... Because they are my own unique results. From a niche search engine that doesn't compete with theirs.

From their email, I got the impression that adsense on scraped results would be against TOS. They specifically said I could do it BECAUSE it was my own search engine with unique results.

asianguy

5:02 pm on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)



Spacylacie, watch is exactly a scrape result, can you explain further? Having to paste my result in a page rather than the person manually searching it to get the result is considered a scrape result?

Please define exactly what is a scrape result?

Anyone have their own defination?

Thanks.

spaceylacie

6:48 pm on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I considered a scraped results as ones that you just use a program to crawl the net, no human intervention, then call them your own unique search results.

spaceylacie

6:50 pm on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Oh, this is what Google does... guess they are scrapers too. ;-)