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Just got 2 cent click thrus reported

How is this possible?

         

MikeNoLastName

7:25 pm on May 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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On yesterday's adsense report (run today) I show two separate, relatively low traffic pages which each received only 1 clickthru each for the entire day and they both have total earnings of .02 for the day. Tell me G isn't taking more of a cut then previously! I thought the minimum was 51% of .05. Are they rounding .0255 DOWN to .02?

Rodney

7:34 pm on May 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I don't think they ever published the minimum per click, plus when you factor in SmartPricing, the amount you receive per click could vary.

I also think that advertisers don't necessarily pay .05 cents per click every time, even though that's the minimum bid...I think that's the maximum they will pay for that click (if they have .05 cents set as their bid amount for that keyword).

ken_b

7:37 pm on May 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The minimum bid for an ad is $0.05. Then Smart Pricing can lower the amount the advertizer is actually charged.

So, you can apparently get a lot lower payout than $0.02. I've seen comments here about $0.01 clicks.

brainsys

8:18 pm on May 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The first 12 clicks on one channel this morning netted 24c. This channel averages 15c per click to date.

Nothing strange on the ads displayed. Very, very odd.

hunderdown

8:22 pm on May 16, 2005 (gmt 0)



This channel averages 15c per click to date

And how long have you been monitoring it? You may have just accumulated enough history for smart pricing to kick in. Or an advertiser just started reporting conversions to Google. Or the #2 bidder reduced their bid, which also lowers the amount the top advertiser has to pay per click (in this respect the #2 bid is more important than than the top bid).

That's three possibilities. There may be others.

hunderdown

8:22 pm on May 16, 2005 (gmt 0)



This channel averages 15c per click to date

And how long have you been monitoring it? You may have just accumulated enough history for smart pricing to kick in. Or an advertiser just started reporting conversions to Google. Or the #2 bidder reduced their bid, which also lowers the amount the top advertiser has to pay per click (in this respect the #2 bid is more important than than the top bid).

That's three possibilities. There may be others.

brainsys

8:57 pm on May 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thank you for your 3 suggestions but I would not have bothered posting if I thought one was the solution.

I have been monitoring for nine months. Advertisers are mostly very local and would mostly lack sophistication implied in some of your suggestions.
I might give them a call tomorrow and ask if anything changed their end.

Losing a customer for 2c is not a good deal for me.

MikeNoLastName

9:34 pm on May 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I've also noticed some previously very high CPM pages still showing the exact same rotation of ads for months (apparently the same advertisers love staying on our site) and suddenly dropping about 80% in PPC this month so far. This happened back in Feb too then popped back up to record highs at the beginning of March until the beginning of this month. I'm thinking it's, as Hunder suggested, someone reporting conversions, at the end of each month. One month they're up and the next they're down. We used to see a similar, but less drastic, cycle each Saturday.
Not being an Adwords advertiser, I was wondering how that reporting worked? Say you had 10 advertisers, and only one reported conversions. Could that one advertiser just constantly keep reporting bad conversions in order to bring down the smartpricing for the others? Does he get dropped from that page if he says it doesn't convert? Say he had a second account which he didn't report on. If he constantly reported terrible conversions on the first one, would it bring down the smart pricing for the second? Can anyone explain this whole conversion reporting or point us to somewhere that it is explained?

incrediBILL

9:53 pm on May 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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You're assuming it's US $0.05 ad.

If it's a Canadian or Australian ad for $0.05 then the USD$ commission will be much less due to the exchange rate.

hunderdown

2:15 am on May 17, 2005 (gmt 0)



brainsys, since you only joined WebmasterWorld two weeks ago, I thought you'd maybe only started with AdSense recently....

Fryman

4:03 am on May 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I've had many one-cent clicks on my site

photo200

6:58 am on May 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Some time ago I was also getting those 1-2 cents clicks.

After that I started my own ADWORDS compaign to get my own ADS shown on the network for such bargain price.

And ....

The minimum price I've been charged during
one week test was 4 cents. That could mean
if publisher at that moment got 2 cents -
GG took another 2 cents (50%)

kwngian

7:07 am on May 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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If it's a Canadian or Australian ad for $0.05 then the USD$ commission will be much less due to the exchange rate.

We are paying about US$0.065 for minimum bid price after converting from our local currency to US$ and absorbing the loss in exchange.

MikeNoLastName

8:18 am on May 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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So noone seems to know how this conversion reporting actually works?

I've noticed lately that about 3/4 of our lowest paying ads recently, although they display a prestigious, high-end, recognizable, domain name, actually also are prefixed in the code by the domain names: how should I "paraphrase" in order to avoid the censors?... add-dot-dblclk-dot-net & ayteedee-m-tee. Are these companies simply a tracking service which the big companies use while bidding for themselves, or are they more of a bottom-feeding eebaay/amayawn type spam-all affiliate which many people are filtering along with the aforementioned types? I've set my filter this evening to filter out this domain name temporarily, to see if PPC goes up. Not sure if it will actually work.

peewhy

8:54 am on May 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Have you asked Google?

MikeNoLastName

10:07 am on May 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"Have you asked Google? "
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Well I did, right after you posted this question/suggestion. It's now been almost 48 hours with no response, so I'm guessing they won't be answering.