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Smart Pricing - By Page or By Site?

         

Buzliteyear

4:49 pm on May 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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A quick survey of opinions.

Do you all think that when smart pricing kicks in, does it kick in on the particular page of a website or on the entire website?

Also, besides opinions, if you have any definitive info, please share the source.

Thanks.

hyperkik

4:58 pm on May 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My sense is that it's a bit of both for most sites.

jchampliaud

5:36 pm on May 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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In my opinion the page ranks higher than the site.

phantombookman

5:38 pm on May 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have wondered something broader;
Does it affect your whole account?
I run adsence on several sites and wonder if the poorer ones may drag down the better ones

jchampliaud

5:44 pm on May 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I run adsence on several sites and wonder if the poorer ones may drag down the better ones.

I don’t think so, unless you have a lot of spam sites.

jomaxx

5:51 pm on May 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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They may use sitewide data or even accountwide data as elements of the Smart Pricing calculation. But I'm pretty sure that they would do the math in such a way that, in the long run, page A does not affect the earnings of page B. It just means using a weighted average.

Why do I think this? Well, if you added a low-performing site and it dragged down your whole account disproportionately, then logically you could add a HIGH-performing site and LIFT UP your earnings on all your other pages. Somehow I don't think Google would allow the system to be gamed in that way.

Dabu The Dragon

6:05 pm on May 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The smart pricing question is one of a very unique perspective. I run AS on ten sites. I see absolutely no pattern whatsoever.

I have two site that have the exact same keywords, hence relatively identical AS results. They NEVER pay the same amount per click.

Whatever the pattern is for smart pricing the scope is much larger than we are assuming.

RS_200_gto

6:13 pm on May 15, 2005 (gmt 0)



The pattern for smart pricing is that Google takes more, we take less.

jchampliaud

6:14 pm on May 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Whatever the pattern is for smart pricing the scope is much larger than we are assuming.

Could another factor be the click destination?

Dabu The Dragon

6:26 pm on May 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Could another factor be the click destination?

That is very possible. I don't know. But from where I stand. I've seen one site pay ten times the amount of the other per click. Then the next day it changes around. So if both sites have 100 clicks, and the exact same ads, shouldn't the PPC be close? Again, I don't know. But I would think they should be similiar.

In my opinion the page ranks higher than the site.

jchampliaud, I've noticed this as well.

I can definitely say that one of the patterns for SP is page particular. As well as site particular.

To be honest, for me it's one of those things I try not to concern myself with too much. As long as I can get clicks and G is paying we good.

KiShOrE

8:06 pm on May 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I also wanna know abt this Smart Pricing...

But one of my point is, if it affects the whole website won't it be like I won't get good CPC for my high quality contents on blogspot dot com?

Cause, there are so many lame blog with adsense on that site.

So, what do you think people about this?

To me, according to that, Smart Pricing doesnt hit the whole website.

europeforvisitors

12:49 am on May 16, 2005 (gmt 0)



They may use sitewide data or even accountwide data as elements of the Smart Pricing calculation. But I'm pretty sure that they would do the math in such a way that, in the long run, page A does not affect the earnings of page B. It just means using a weighted average.

That would make sense, because it's hard to imagine Google wanting to discourage publishers from using high-quality content that isn't necessarily commercial. That would be like telling THE NEW YORK TIMES, "Keep on publishing the auto, travel, and financial secions, but ditch the news stories and the editorial page."

dillonstars

10:29 pm on May 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Could another factor be the click destination?

I think they may well use Adwords conversion-rate data in the smartpricing calculation, so, in my opinion, the destination site makes as much difference as the originating site.

Sites that are typically poor at converting bookings will pay less in advertising fees, therefore the publisher will earn less for that click.