Forum Moderators: martinibuster

Message Too Old, No Replies

Suddenly...PSAs!

Top earning page just went limp.

         

CheeseburgerBrown

5:18 pm on May 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



So, I'm making money hand over fist for a few days from one specific URI -- which is now all of a sudden displaying nothing but stinkin' PSAs.

The rest of my site continues to get targeted ads as usual.

#*$!? Any interpretations? Have I been shunned? Has this ever happened to anybody?

I'm still kicking ass in the Google SERPs, so I don't think I'm been sandboxed.

What do you big earning geniuses think? I'm just a baby-fish.

photo200

6:22 pm on May 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Once per 5-10 days Adsense bot visits each page.

If he will discover some bad thinks
-word s!x for instance more than 1 time or number of
outbound links will be to high - it will ban this particular page.

On my experience it will come back
again in about 2 weeks time.
You need to be patient.
Make your page as clean as possible and wait.

Good luck.

Roadkill

6:27 pm on May 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



I had a simalar experience and it came back in a couple of weeks. One thing you could try is to change from tower to box or vice/verse might cause a bot run.

good luck

Jenstar

6:40 pm on May 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Probably stop word issue [google.com]

Don't forget that the stop word list is dynamic, so what was perfectly fine last week might have problems this week.

jetteroheller

6:59 pm on May 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month



Probably stop word issue
Don't forget that the stop word list is dynamic, so what was perfectly fine last week might have problems this week.

There is no simple stop word list.

You can have on a medical technic side each word of the female anatomy and receive relevant ads.

ScadSense

8:38 pm on May 1, 2005 (gmt 0)



I have noticed on new pages that get set up, having a non-topic word repeated twice can throw the whole adsense into a tizzy... such as saying on a medical page "the pharmacy was a dog's nightmare, and I found that dog to be a bad place to get good service" might bring up ads for "bad dog training" even if there is 200 words of targetted medical content and it's a medical site. So, I have found that taking out the tizzy-making words AND renaming the page url allows the content-algo to reset and deliver the correct ads.

How can this help you? If you can, rename your index.html to index.htm and see if you can force a re-evaluation of your site in case it was some sort of stop word or other phenom that can be fixed.

Also, one time a site was sent to PSA status for a week or so, and I made some changes that I thought would make G happier - certain links were removed.

bose

9:35 pm on May 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



How can this help you? If you can, rename your index.html to index.htm and see if you can force a re-evaluation of your site in case it was some sort of stop word or other phenom that can be fixed.

When you change file names (or extensions thereof), you are going to return 404 for the original pages, causing them to be dropped from SE indices. Are you sure doing so for nudging AdsenseBot to re-evaluate your content for (possibly) better targeting is worth it? Not in my books. BTW, it could also potentially do a number on your inbound links, etc. Just a thought...

CheeseBurgerBrown: Try changing Ad format. It could prompt the bot to swing by in a relatively short order.

What do you big earning geniuses think? I'm just a baby-fish.

Just noticed the above: Sorry, being a real tiny fish, I should've stayed outta here... :)

CheeseburgerBrown

12:25 am on May 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Thanks for all the advice from the trenches.

Unfortunately, I am not in a position to be patient. The content in question was created specifically to take advantage of a cultural phenomenon which will be reaching its climax on 19 May 2005. I therefore have only around 2.5 weeks to make whatever money I'm making off this URI.

I'm going to jigger with the page a bit and then wait a day or two. If the PSAs persist I'll have no option but to move to a back-up ad provider (which are *vastly* inferior, but loose change per day is better than nothing at all per day).

I had a helluva two weeks with that URI...I guess I should count myself lucky as it is.

Thanks again.

sailorjwd

12:33 am on May 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



That was a give away! I'll be in the theater that day :)

novice

1:50 am on May 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Cheeseburgerbrown

Are the PSA's showing on domain.com, www.domain.com or both?

And may the force be with you.

jomaxx

1:56 am on May 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Some say that changing the ad format on the page will get you revisited and reevaluated by the MediaPartners spider. If it works, you can change the ad block back to the original and see if the fix holds.

CheeseburgerBrown

2:26 pm on May 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Novice: Yes, both show PSAs. I did briefly see real ads today, but only when viewing the URI through a third-party site portal. I have checked the URI browsing directly from multiple, unrelated IPs, and all I see are PSAs.

Jomaxx & Others: Yes, I've rejiggered the ad formats. So far no luck. I edited one or two bits of text to remove a word of minimal profanity...I have no other Stop Word guesses.

Re: 19 May 2005...
Google
darth vader
#10

hunderdown

2:46 pm on May 2, 2005 (gmt 0)



Maybe stop words related to St*r W*rs have been added to prevent publishers from cashing in on the movie release with dubious content (not on your site--but I wouldn't be surprised to see some cranked out for just that purpose).

novice

2:50 pm on May 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



I have no other Stop Word guesses.

How often are you using the word "revenge", and in what combination with other words?

hyperkik

6:25 pm on May 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



I once had a similar problem with a bunch of pages from my site. I sent an email to Google informing them of the situation, and they wrote back stating, in effect, "fixed", and certain stop words (most of which were quite understandable) no longer blocked ads on my site.

If you've been following the Google News discussion of "trustrank", it is my impression that Google has long had the virtual equivalent of a "trust" dial for AdSense websites, and that sometimes it is necessary to request a manual correction. Your site has been the subject of a lot of links and traffic, and that may have automatically triggered a protection mechanism that needs to be reset by hand.

That's a long way of saying, "If I were you, I'd email AdSense support."

CheeseburgerBrown

7:57 pm on May 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Hyperkik,

I have indeed e-mailed Google. No reply yet.

I do now believe it *is* a stop words issue. I can't for the life of me figure out which stop words, but I'm pretty sure that's it. The content that triggered it seems pretty innocuous to me.

We'll see what Big G has to say.

CheeseburgerBrown

2:13 am on May 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Ads are back!

:)

dazzlindonna

2:57 am on May 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



So, did you remove any stopwords or did the ads just come back for no reason? oh, and btw, glad they came back for you! :)