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Geographical targeting

I'd like to specify advertisers' location

         

m0nty

4:51 pm on Apr 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My site logs show 92% of my visitors are from one country, in this case being my home of Australia. Yet my site gets ads from all over, lots of US but also some UK.

Has anyone ever requested from G a feature where you can restrict advertisers to those from a particular country or other location? Or is there a technique to do this in metadata?

howiejs

5:53 pm on Apr 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Its based on the advertiser choosing geo areas in their Adwords campaigns.

m0nty

7:13 pm on Apr 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yes, but it doesn't help anyone if I have 92% of readers in Australia, yet they're being served ads that are not relevant to them in the slightest, because they're for incompatible foreign versions of the widgets that my site is about. The advertisers won't get any clickthroughs, and my users don't see relevant ads. Everyone loses.

jimbeetle

8:03 pm on Apr 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It's also based on the location of the visitor. You can use the Adsense Preview Tool to get an idea of what ads are being served where.

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Jenstar

8:48 pm on Apr 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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If your visitors visit your site from Australia, they will be shown advertisements that advertisers have chosen to target that country with - this is all done with the ad serving technology AdSense uses. I could view your site from Canada and might not see a single ad that is the same.

And definitely take jimbeetle's great advice and see what ads are served to people in different countries.

MichaelCrawford

11:18 pm on Apr 30, 2005 (gmt 0)



I can tell that my CPM goes way down early in the morning US time, and goes way up in the evening. My top page is the sort of thing one reads at home, not work.

I think the reason that the CPM goes down is that advertisers are targeting north american readers, so that when people from elsewhere read my page, they get PSAs. That's just a theory.

I haven't been using an alternate ad yet, so I'm going to try one that features other stuff on my site, hopefully to show the reader that I have more worthwhile than just that one page, and establish a repeat customer.

incrediBILL

12:18 am on May 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My site happens to have worldwide appeal so it's not an issue but I can see the problem problem clearly here.

a) The web site targets australian widgets and over 90% of the visitors are australian

b) Widget vendors from other countries (mostly US) are advertising widgets on countries where the widgets are incompatible

c) THEREFORE - All US widget ads on the site will never results is US widget sales except maybe to the 8% non-australian visitors. These out-of-country ads are just wasting his ad space with irrelevant ads and inhibiting his ability to maximize his income.

It's not that the ads are off topic, I took a look at the site and they are contextual all right, they simply don't apply to his visitor base whatsoever.

I see this as reason why Google should have an option for AdSense PUBLISHERS to specify the countries where advertising would be appropriate, just like AdWords advertisers can select where they would like their ads to show.

Write to Google tech support and see if they can help, you never know until you try.

They were nice enough to block those evil CPM ads for me.

europeforvisitors

1:15 am on May 1, 2005 (gmt 0)



I see this as reason why Google should have an option for AdSense PUBLISHERS to specify the countries where advertising would be appropriate, just like AdWords advertisers can select where they would like their ads to show.

That would make sense, although they'd probably prefer to get their geotargeting working better (or to get their advertisers thinking better).

One possible workaround would be to have Australian and non-Australian versions of the site, with AdSense code only on the latter. (Still, if I were in the publisher's shoes, I'd probably grit my teeth and wait for Google to get the geotargeting problem straightened out.)

jomaxx

1:30 am on May 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Keep in mind that restricting advertisers to certain countries...
(a) will substantially reduce the pool of ads to be displayed, reducing your CPC by quite a lot I should think, and
(b) might inadvertently eliminate a lot of advertisers who are doing their geotargeting properly and targeting Australians with the correct products. Are any of the advertisers you want to keep foreign companies/multinationals?

IMO this is more of a job for the URL filter and/or a hypothetical keyword-based form of negative keyword, which to my mind would be more flexible and of interest to more sites.

incrediBILL

3:01 am on May 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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OK, maybe the point was lost on the last couple of posters that the geotargetting wasn't the issue.

First, I don't see how in the heck Google's automation could determine this web site isn't a good candidate for worldwide ads unless the webmaster explicitly says it's not.

Second, this was a very specifically australian oriented web site so IMO, like the original poster, I seriously doubt the international ads get much conversion so what's the purpose of loading up the site with higher paying ads that may never get clicked?

Only one way to find out the truth, block all but Australian ads on the site and see what happens.

jomaxx

5:04 am on May 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for the unperceptive comment, but nothing was lost on me. Suffice it to say that not everything that one person feels would benefit his idiosyncratic situation needs to be built into AdSense. Such a filter could not work in principle and the vast majority of sites would have nothing to gain from it.

I made two practical suggestions, one of which would heve helped you, Bill, stop those purple pill ads without the need for a two-day freak-out. The other is an improvement which has been proposed a number of times and which would be of use to many victims of poor ad targeting. Without knowing what kind of "widgets" we're talking about there's not much else one can do to help.

jomaxx

5:13 am on May 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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P.S. My venom isn't aimed at monty. He's in a specific situation and asked a reasonable question. I made what I felt were constructive comments, but being patronized really sets me off.

m0nty

8:28 am on May 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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incrediBILL's suggestion of blocking all the non-Australian ads one by one sounds like a decent workaround. I will try that for a while to see how it goes. I suspect, however, that jomaxx's point about reducing the pool of ads is a valid one too.

Maybe the correct conclusion out of all this will be that AdSense just isn't suited for my site as it is now, because there aren't enough geographically relevant ads in their program to generate enough click-inducing ads. My widget isn't a very sexy widget :( . Also, I think I'll have to venture into related topics which are more keyword-friendly, like pre-widget travel or widget accommodation or post-widget entertainment.

m0nty

8:33 am on May 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Oh, and thank you to everyone who responded, your comments have been very helpful. :)

david_uk

9:11 am on May 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Without knowing what kind of "widgets" we're talking about there's not much else one can do to help.

Well, if we assume from Monty's profile that his website is not too dis-similar to his email address then we *do* know what widgets we are talking about.

If I'm correct, then the site I'm looking at has a couple of Aussie ads, and the rest are ebay/sales related stuff. I'm in the UK btw (if you didn't guess that)

m0nty

9:47 am on May 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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david_uk is on the money.