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I tried emailing the support, so far no reply.
Can anybody explain, why?
Thanks
[edited by: conjo_guam at 12:23 am (utc) on April 29, 2005]
how much are we talking about here for 45 clicks anyways? 2.00. Don't waste your time counting pennies.
One question for you is, why clicks/impressions change but not earning?
I can say that atleast 5 of those clicks are mine.
Good grief!
Don't you read ANY TOS or T&C's?
Do NOT click on your ads!
You will get thrown out before you even start.
Do you have a fairly small set of URL's (easy to spider; good), or do you use some kind of dynamic system that creates long URLs with lots of parameters (hard to spider; generally bad)?
Also that's a pretty light number of impressions. Does the traffic mostly come from a small group or geographic area (i.e. friends and family)?
Also regarding clicking ads on our own site, I ask, why should not i?
If i like some product and want to buy it, why should not i click it?
In any case, any software which bosts of detecting fraud is imperfect. They atleast need loads of data to confirm the fraud.
In my case, it is pretty much small data for them to come to that conclusion. And if they did, i can confront them.
Again, google is not the only thing out there, Yahoo is already there and MSN is also coming out.
If google says, you are banned, then i will call it quits.
It is not the end of the world.
thanks
you are very brave guy.............
[edited by: driris at 1:14 am (utc) on April 29, 2005]
Also regarding clicking ads on our own site, I ask, why should not i? If i like some product and want to buy it, why should not i click it?
Because the Adsense TOS forbids publishers clicking on ads on their own sites.
Thanks for all your responses.
By the way, did you guys noticed that "Yahoo searches improved a lot?"
Just to clarify I don't think that is exactly the case. For example I can't run yahoo at this point (still awaiting to hear from them when they open it up) and I haven't heard any time frames or even a brief mention that MS is close to having something available. I'm sure they will will time, but not today or tomorrow.
i do.
45 clicks and only 5 cents?
Any PSA appearing on other countries?
Always best checking out by emailing google
<joke>
Also regarding clicking ads on our own site, I ask, why should not i?
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonble one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonble man."
George Bernard Shaw, 1903
Why should you have different T&C's?
I did not get any invalid clicks report yet from google. I even checked from people in India/UK and they said ads are relevant ads.
I also got 140 clicks for my website from Turkey and lebanon.
Moreover google should not loose me as their publisher. My website is a themed website based on free online invitations/announcements/greeting cards
So, my website has all valid content and related matter.
Hopefully they will resolve this issue soon. Otherwise, i have fastclick/casale media ads on my hand.
Regards
I also got 140 clicks for my website from Turkey and lebanon.
How do you know this? Are your friends clicking the ads?
Moreover google should not loose me as their publisher.
If you do not abide by their T&C's then you will lose your Google account...no questions asked. They will terminate if you contravene the T&C's.
Which bit of this do you not understand?
In anyways, let google come up with some correspondence and i will confront them with evidence and proof of what i did and what is happening.
thanks
In anyways, let google come up with some correspondence and i will confront them with evidence and proof of what i did and what is happening.
My friend, please listen to reason. Have some sense, please just for a minute?
Google is a big company. Theirs is the top website in the entire world. They are very busy people.
You are very small fish for them. People who click their own ads are, in the words of one of Google's founders, "a serious threat to our business model". If Google were to allow self-clicking to occur, their advertisers would no longer be willing to pay google to serve their ads. This huge company would go bankrupt in a very short time.
They are very serious about ensuring that click fraud is swiftly punished.
You may well have a very good website, that would do very well for google. But they are very busy people. I'm pretty sure their limited support staff is overwhelmed just with the normal problems that occur. I know I've emailed them a whole bunch of times.
If they discover you are clicking your own ads, they won't ask why. They won't even look at your site to see how good it is. They don't have the TIME to.
Instead, your adsense membership will be TERMINATED. I expect you'll get a short, polite email explaining that you've VIOLATED THE ADSENSE TERMS OF SERVICE and that will be the last you'll ever hear from them.
Your attempts to get accepted back into adsense will fall on deaf ears. I'm pretty sure they will have configured their account approval system to automatically ignore your requests. They are very busy people. Understand, they simply do not have the time to pay attention.
I understand you think you have good reasons to click your ads. But you don't understand that Google simply doesn't have the time or staff resources to pay attention to you. If you want to continue publishing adsense ads, and earning money from your visitors clicks, then follow the following instructions very carefully:
DO NOT CLICK ON YOUR OWN ADS FOR ANY REASON.
Have I made myself clear?
Like others here, I have seen a steady decline over the past two months. Click through percentage has remained pretty constant. Revenue has plummeted by about 60%. At a penny a click I will need to reassess if I want to remain in the program.
Luckily, Adsense only provides a little bit of play money for me. Those that have chosen to base their primary income on this program have far more guts than I do.
WBF
AdSense may not be the best approach for your site....
You are contradicting your own words.
You say google is a big company and on the other hand you they have small staff or not enough resources to respond to emails quickly.
Isn't it time for them to rectify and hire some people?
This is serious threat for their business model than self click fraud.
Some advertisers just want to get noticed on the web. They don't care, how many people actually register after clicking their website.
Also, i am not saying that google as to come beg for their adsense inclusion. They have their own reasons not to come and i have my own reasons to continue or not to continue in their program.
In any case, there are number of loopholes, they need to fix.
Thanks for your clear and lengthy explanation on behalf of google.
They have a phone serverice for Adwords, but not for Adsense. Can u explain why?
I simply take this to mean that, they care less for publishers and care a lot for advertisers.
Again, if publishers are not happy, there won't be any advertisers left.
--regards.
They have a phone serverice for Adwords, but not for Adsense. Can u explain why?
Because advertisers are their customers.
And yes, they need publishers, but they don't need publishers who commit breach of contract by violating the program policies.
Atleast they should stop sending the ads, if they have discovered something.
Increased competition will lead to increased click fraud as banned publishers bunnyhop from one contextual ad service to another.
Increased competition will lead to increased click fraud as banned publishers bunnyhop from one contextual ad service to another.
It's quite possible that Yahoo and MSN will be more selective than Google has been. Google's strategy was to achieve a dominant market share; it's too late for Yahoo and MSN to do that, so it would make sense for them to position themselves as quality networks and skim the cream from AdSense advertisers and publishers. If that's the case, then the bottom-feeding click cheaters and scrapers will have to look for second- or third-tier networks when they get booted from AdSense.
