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You have to realize it takes time to build a website. Now that you have all your time for yourself, you can certainly devote all your energies to building you're website's content. That will help, but not as much as you're hoping, not for several months at least, maybe more like a year.
It is not really economical to build traffic to a website by paying for advertising. You would be very fortunate if you made as much off adsense as you paid to advertise your site.
Instead, what you need is free advertising. You need for word to get around about your site. You need to create buzz in the public mind. You need to build search engine traffic.
Part of your problem is that the search engines won't index your new content right away, so once you publish a great new page, it won't show up in anyone's searches for a while.
The other problem is that to get the good rank you hope for, you need for your visitors to link you from their own websites. While some people are happy to give you a link if you ask - and you SHOULD ask, right on your pages - most won't. And once your readers have placed some links on their sites, it will take time for the search engines to index THEIR pages, and to find their links to your site.
It took about a year for my top earning page to get to the level of traffic it has today. It's responsible for almost all my adsense revenue. During that time I was promoting the hell out of it. All that hard work has paid off, but I would not have been able to build that page's traffic if I did not have some other way to earn a living.
Another important thing to consider is that you need to learn the ropes. Maybe you're already experienced with some other website, but do you know what strategies will work well for your current website? You need time to learn from experience.
Try to find some way you can earn enough money just to get by, while still giving you the time you need to build your site until you CAN live off its earnings. You'll be glad you did.
I have a site that already is popular and has good traffic. It took many years to achieve that. I only started to publish adsense last fall. I make quite a bit of money, but not enough to quit my job yet. I hope to be able to do so within a year though. Do you think that's realistic?
What I'd really like to do is quit writing code and write for a living instead, making my money off website advertising. I expect that if I tried I could sell my articles to magazines, but by publishing on my own website I get to keep the rights, and the articles will continue to make money. A sale to a magazine yields only one paycheck.
I Quit My Job For a 100 Percent AdSense Future
Great title on front page, Brett. :)
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This is Adsense control
You are clear to go hyper space
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I quit my job for an Adsense future
I quit my job for an Adsense future
Anyone want to finish off the lyrics in Foo?
I'd strongly suggest diversification.
Not only adding affiliate or independant ads to a site, but also developing sites in other topic areas.
I'd also suggest using a diverse group of techniques for promotion your different sites.
Your current site and topic may be the most appealing to you, but if your main source of traffic is the SE, well we all know how fickle they can be. You can be number 1 today, and history tommorow.
If Adsense is your main source of income, the diversity of topic and technique may become even more critical.
You have to decide whether working at your job for another year has too great of an opportunity cost in relation to spending all day working on what you want to work on - creating content, online advertising etc.
Tons of people have been in your situation - online income not quite to the level of job income yet they make the jump anyway. In a few months they are doing great and making much more than their job and doing what they love as well.
No risk = no reward. Keep doing what you are doing and you'll continue to get the same results.
Try these posts:
[webmasterworld.com...]
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You have to file with the state and then either the city, county, or both
Since this is not true in any state or city in the US I am aware of, I would recommend simply speaking with an accountant for 3 minutes.
I know a lot of work-at-home-ers but none of them are lazy.
Hmmm....we must hang in different circles :)
I was thinking the other day how it would be an adventure to go into an office job right now. I would have to iron my bathrobe everyday :)
Normal, is's much more easy to work as a journalist than to sell web design seminars.
Not so in this case. This company is preparing to present a new product.
He was shocked as I told him that I am a journalist, because he had the idea, that I could help him to make a new web site and had very bad experiences with journalists before.
I explained him, that shure I make also web sites and deliver seminars how to do it, but because I experienced at so much potential clients, that they wail about the money, I just opened a new business line by creating advertising financed online magazines.
This is like the message "I am so good in internet promotion, that I thought writing an article about You brings me more money by the advertising revenues, than You would pay for a web site".
Since this is not true in any state or city in the US I am aware of, I would recommend simply speaking with an accountant for 3 minutes.
I suggest you find a different accountant :)
[dol.wa.gov...]
Go to online option and look for Internet Web based business.
My city has a downloadable pdf to fill out to get my city license. At the top of the form it has a checkbox for home internet/web based business.
I had to call the county and talk to the accessor about claiming property and when and how I have to do this.
My bank says strictly that you may NOT use a personal account to conduct business.
I must also file with the IRS quarterly.
I randomly picked the state of Maryland and guess what, you need a business license their also.
[blis.state.md.us...]
Try under "Producing, Transmitting and Distributing Information"
Here is a gov site with links to all states,
[sba.gov...]
And this is from a site whose link I probably can't post but you can find if you do a search on google for "us business license requirements"
These rules apply to All States & All businessesIncluding businesses run by professionals, contractors, online Websites, selling on ebay, home businesses, Sole Owners, partnerships, corporations, or any other business.
I am not sure if this site is 100% accurate and i'm not going to take the time to look up the rules for every state but I believe many people just don't realize these rules and are operating illegally.
Once a week or so I'd get a call from the branch manager asking about it, because they said it was an "audit flag": they were not permitted to give me an account without a license.
Around this time I moved out of the city to nearby Aptos, in the unincorporated county of Santa Cruz. The next time the branch manager called, I asked where to go to get an Aptos business license. She said, "Oh, you live in the County now? Actually you don't need one anymore".
Requirements for business licences vary quite a bit from location to location. In California, it was the cities that required them. Maybe some states require them of all businesses in the state. But definitely not all states. You need to find out, and I think the advice of asking an accountant is a good one.
You have to understand that the reason for things like business licenses is so they can enforce things like traffic and parking regulations. If you really are just operating a website from your home, and you don't ever have customers from the city where you live, certainly if none of them visit you in your home, well maybe you'd be operating illegally to not have a license, but I doubt anyone would bother you, even if they were to find out.
I asked at the town office when I moved to Owl's Head, Maine, if I needed to have a license if I was incorporated? My neighbor had a license for her home based business. The town clerk said she didn't know. I used to visit the town office on other business frequently, and she knew I ran a business out of my home, but she never asked again about it.
But I do know that Owl's Head used business licenses to enforce against a home based business: a previous owner of the house where I lived ran an auto body shop out of the garage. He'd work in it nights and weekends, making all kinds of racket late into the night, exposing the neighborhood to toxics and so on. My neighbors were able to use the city ordinances to shut him down.
That's the kind of home based business that better have a license, and to be sure they have planning commission approval for their impact on the neighborhood. A home based website just isn't like that.
You need to find out, and I think the advice of asking an accountant is a good one.
No, good advice would be using this link [sba.gov...] to check with your state to see if your type of business needs a license to operate. Laws change constantly and your accountant may be unaware but you state website should always be up to date. There is really no need to argue this subject, simply go to your state website and see if you need a license. I am curious which states don't require a license, feel free to show your state.
When getting your state license they should tell you how to find out if you need a city or county license. The main reason they want people to have a business license is for reporting your earnings quarterly to the IRS. Just as when you work for an employer every week and they take out so much for taxes and social security they want to make sure the self-employed have enough taken out throughout the year so they don't end up in trouble come tax time. Beyond that, if you live in the city and get a license then you become part of your local chamber of commerce and many other doors open to you. Needless to say the penalty you might incure if you have been operating without a license for years and they find out and backcharge you with interest.
Even if they your state doesn't require a license today they very well could require one tommorow. I don't have to worry about things like that because I am licensed and legal. I really see no reason not to get licensed since it doesn't really cost that much anyway.
You have to ask yourself how much you are making with the next best thing. Those are the first two places competing for your adspace. They will eventually converge, and Adsense would love to have more of the money they are paying you right now.
Who really knows when that happens. I personally love Adsense, but business is business, and I'm sure that they aren't that concerned with me. I'm in full agreement with anyone who says to build diversified income streams. Any surprises will be a minor setbacks instead of a crushing blows.
I think that if you find more than 50% of your income is Adsense, you're going to have to sit down and build non-adsense stuff. Even if it doesn't pay as well...
Or we might see a future thread:
'Last Friday, I quit my Adsense for a Job'
Or even worse:
'How to monetise 1000 content sites now Adsense doesn't pay well any more'
Nothing of any internet, computer or IT nature is mentioned.
But these are:
Circuses; Coal and coke dealers maintaining yards; Coffins and caskets; manufacturers; Creosoting, etc.; Embalmers; Fireworks; Flying jennies, merry-go-rounds, etc.; Fortunetellers, palmists, clairvoyants, etc.; Hide, fur, etc., dealers; Ice factories; Junk dealers; Legerdemain and sleight of hand; Peddlers and itinerant vendors; Playing cards; Pistols, revolvers, bowie and dirk knives, etc.; Roadhouses, nightclubs, etc.; Street fairs and carnivals; Trading Stamps; and I swear I am not making this up...Ticket Scalpers
So for anyone in Alabama, looks like no state license is required for computer related work. I know this is slightly divergent....but true and gave me a good laugh.
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License? Don't need no stinkin' license, but if they did in my town I'd get it. But if it allows them to impose a fee or extra tax, then there are options to form an LLC or incorporate in states like Delaware and Nevada.
Banks? Don't ask, don't tell. Adsense and other side income checks deposit in my name without problems for over 10 years. If the business is going to be in a name other than yours, then you have fewer options. But there may be some internet-based banking options.
Adsense only? Wow - kudos. I'm looking to leave a stable gig when my diverisifid income gets to the magic $333 per day... or $444 before factoring in taxes and operating costs.
Now this is true.... one of my family members had me committed! Really, I was held in a mental health facility for about 5 days! No one believed me when I told them that I was going to make money from giving away my sewing patterns and offering free online sewing lessons instead of selling them. They said this was a dillusional thought, LOL! I think about those doctors every time I take one of my checks to the bank!
I work from home now, whenever I'm in the mood. Bills are paid and over the past few months, I've finally, for the first time in my life, been able to start a nice savings account. I like to keep thousands of dollars just laying around the counter when the relative who had me committed comes by for a visit! I also keep my most recent Google check tacked to the refrigerator, to show off, and don't deposit it until I get a new one.
I guess that as long as I get notepads and get to keep my work then I could do with 5 days in the funnyfarm to concentrate!
Goodness! Had your "helpful" relative heard of the Net? Or maybe s/he was a bitter Internet ex-VC! That's really playing with fire, getting locked up because your relative doesn't understand a business idea.
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