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Top 100 High paying keywords?

         

BigAl

12:04 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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anyone know where to find a list?

Woz

12:14 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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There are various lists out there BigAl, some paid, some free, with varying figures and statistics. Just search your favourite Search Engine and you should find them.

Remember though, you are not the only one who wants to target, or has already targeted, the high paying keywords. Competition will be fierce.

Onya
Woz

Marketing Guy

12:16 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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There are some lists kicking about I believe, but nothing you can really take as granted with any accuracy. If you had the budget you could do some PPC testing yourself.

Obviously a made-for-Adsense site isn't a new idea, nor is targetting high $$ KW's so it's unlikely you will find quality information readily available.

Some of the terms are fairly questionable and I would think that a straight list isn't probably the best way to organise such data.

Rule of thumb is that expensive services (finance, law, etc) have high $$.

That said, you might find that lower $$ areas have a higher click through rate and thus are more profitable.

Another issue is that made-for-Adsense sites tend to be...well...crap. So not much for the visitor - only money generating sites. As such it's fairly safe to assume that Google won't be all that keen on them and will probably look for ways / reasons to ban them.

So the time / effort needed to create an all-encompassing Adsense "top 100" site may not be worth it.

Scott

[edited by: Woz at 12:21 pm (utc) on April 14, 2005]
[edit reason] No URLs please, see TOS#13 [/edit]

BigAl

3:33 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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So you guys don't think a site that has no real content and just adsence would not make any money targeting high paying keywords? What if you were paying 5-10 cents on a PPC engine for same or similar keywords. How could you loose?

I just thought this up and thought it was a slam dunk! I didn't realize i was this much of a newbie :)

trillianjedi

3:35 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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no real content and just adsence

I would say that's against the AdSense TOS in the first instance.

But in general, yes, you can make money using PPC and AdSense.

Risky game though, and you need to know what you're doing.

TJ

FromRocky

3:48 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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What if you were paying 5-10 cents on a PPC engine for same or similar keywords. How could you loose?

What did you get is the AdSense ads from the above mentioned sites which pays 5 to 10 cents like your proposal. Just recyled AdSense ads.

BigAl

3:48 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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trillianjedi,

Do you have experience in this? Where does the all risk come then if you make sure your adsense ads are good for your keywords and you paying way more than 50% less PPC.

[edited by: BigAl at 3:59 pm (utc) on April 14, 2005]

BigAl

3:58 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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FromRocky, are you saying if I only paid 5 cents a click I would only get adsence ads that pay 5 cents a click? I don't quite understand. I'm trying to fish for more info.

thanks,

FromRocky

4:25 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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AdSense algorithm is smarter and smarter everyday. Google will match the ads for the type of your site such as directory, info, review, price comparison, affiliates, etc. This is what I call "smart pricing" match.

Since you go into the highest paid ad, Google has a ton of ads to match your site. If you create a directory site to tap in these highest paid keywords, your site will get mostly the directory ads that pay at a minimal.

Curiosity

4:36 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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If you bid 5 cents a click on a keyword whose top bid is much higher--and the top 100 keyword bids are $5 to $75 higher, depending on the list--then one of two things will happen:

1. Your ad will be so far down the queue that it will never be shown.

2. Your ad will be so far down the queue that it will be shown only when there are a pile of other ads on the page, meaning that your visitors will have seen--and rejected--all of the high-paying ads you want them to see and click on your own site.

Method 2 can work when you have lots of content on your site: Visitors show up, browse a bit, read something that makes them look at the ads in a new light, and click. If you're not going to have any other content on the page, though, I can't see your page "converting" many visitors.

(FromRocky, I've never heard that method of "smart pricing" before. Could you point me to a thread about it?)

BigAl

4:40 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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FromRocky,

Thanks for that info. I think you are right about smart pricing. Do you have any idea what the website models get all the high paying clicks? info,review,affiliate ect.

FromRocky

4:48 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have done well with affilliates model. It's hard to get merchants for the highest paid kws, though. Debt, finance, mortgage, insurance et al have been saturated. You have to look for the least known industries. No body will tell you.

BigAl

4:59 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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FromRocky

Thank you for your input. I see you have thought this well out before. Thanks for the heads up before I waste more money on PPC :)

nathanso

6:24 am on Apr 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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" If you bid 5 cents a click on a keyword whose top bid is much higher--and the top 100 keyword bids are $5 to $75 higher, depending on the list--then one of two things will happen:"

Something else happens if an AW keyword is under-performing CTR wise: G disables it *permanently* (after first flagging the kw for a few days in your AW account). No second chance to increase the bid, no re-using it with new ad text or even in a new campaign. And no appeals process, or at least G claims.

I got this very letter from G in the last 10 days over a particular low-performing kw that was getting good CTR in Search but, apparently, poorly in Content.

ErtaiPT

4:52 pm on Apr 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have a financial / stockmarket blog..

In the start i didnt even think about putting ads.. but in the last days I've saw the adsense publicity and tried it out.. but My blog as more than 1 year of existence

I must say some bank and brokerage links that fortunately appear on my site have a good pay (at least a little better than 5c per click)

But I wont go more into this subject because of google's policy.. and my blog has very few visitors anyway

david_uk

9:13 pm on Apr 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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So you guys don't think a site that has no real content and just adsence would not make any money targeting high paying keywords?

Gosh - what an original idea! It might make some money, but not as much as you think.

I'm guessing that the first thread you start after the new site goes online is "Why am I getting 0.5cent clicks?" The second one will be "Why did I get booted?"

Basically, made for adsense sites are against the TOS, so you run the risk of being booted.

The other point is that with no content, you don't get people hanging around clicking on the ads. People *will* click out of the site, but unless the clicks convert, then smart pricing will zap the earnings down bigtime.