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webmasterguy

8:45 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Adsence payment options:

What's people feelings on google still using cheques as the only way to pay account owners?

I live in the uk and have to pay over £10 to cash the cheques, I have been running adsence now for over 4 years and must have spent over £200 on cashing google adsence cheques.

I wish google would pay us via Pay Pal or offer other electronic payment options to save those of us outside the USA money on cashing cheques

What do you think?

[edited by: webmasterguy at 9:41 pm (utc) on Mar. 14, 2005]

Tropical Island

8:48 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I'm all for that.

Getting checks here in the jungles of SA (that's a little exaggeration) is a hit and miss situation especially when everything else in the world is electronic.

How about just crediting it to my AdWords account. That seems fairly simple.

linear

8:53 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Offering direct adwords balance transfer might tempt me into trying out the service. They absolutely should offer that, because I doubt I'm the only one in that position.

Nikke

8:53 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I think it's on top of just about everybodys list of wanted AdSense changes.

My Swedish bank charges me SEK 130 {¡Ö USD 19) per cheque, and it still takes them a week to process.

Paypal would be a perfect solution for me.

webmasterguy

9:01 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I think i'll email google on this issue and see what response i get.

I cant see why they cant pay us via Pay Pal or offer other electronic payment options.. Baffles me.

flyerguy

9:26 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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This question has been proposed many, many times and Google is aware of the options.

A recent update to the payment stats indicated that an update may be coming soon, due to the addition of a 'Payment Type' field (currently only cheque).

Really though, as nice as Paypal might sound, they will gouge the <bleep> out of you on a big cheque. It's painful enough to get 61 cents taken off my $10 products.

Direct bank deposit is the only viable alternative.

webmasterguy

9:33 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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[Quote: flyerguy]

Direct bank deposit is the only viable alternative.

Really though, as nice as Paypal might sound, they will gouge the <bleep> out of you on a big cheque. It's painful enough to get 61 cents taken off my $10 products. ]

You have a point Flyerguy, infact the bigger the cheque the bigger the cut with Pay Pal - so yup i agree with you that direct bank deposit does seem the only viable alternative.

[edited by: webmasterguy at 9:39 pm (utc) on Mar. 14, 2005]

larryg

9:39 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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What is the program that has google paying you- I could use some additional revenue. Thanks

webmasterguy

9:40 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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google.com/adsense/

Jenstar

9:41 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Google AdSense is well aware that publishers want different payment options. While I highly doubt it will be PayPal (none of the big companies that are paying out this kind of money use PayPal), I wouldn't be surprised to see direct deposit sometime in the future.

webmasterguy

9:43 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I agree that they google are very aware of adsence account owners payment issues.

It's the need for adsence account payment CHANGES thats the issue. Those of us outside the UK don't want to have to pay a huge fee to cash google adsence cheques and having to wait 5- 7 days to get your money. So yup we have been discussing this issue for a few years but we are still waiting for a change!

So we are hopeing google do come up with an more effective adsence payment alternitive asap!

[edited by: webmasterguy at 9:56 pm (utc) on Mar. 14, 2005]

FromRocky

9:51 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I would prefer:
1. Direct Deposit
2. Cheque (current)- Doesn't cost me a cent except trips to the bank and mailbox.
3. PayPal - I don't like the idea of paying fee and making a transfer?

shortfork

10:06 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have been running adsence now for over 4 years and must have spent over £200 on cashing google adsence cheques.

Really? I'm not really all that up on this stuff but didn't Adsense just start in June of 2003, just *under* two years ago?

Shortzz

webmasterguy

10:08 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Chill! Just a typo mistake..

infact we started our account on the 3rd Dec 2003 is that better! not that its got anything to do with the discussion.

Tropical Island

10:38 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Really though, as nice as PayPal might sound, they will gouge the <bleep> out of you on a big cheque. It's painful enough to get 61 cents taken off my $10 products.

I have used PayPal extensively for over 4 years and as a Premier account I get charged approx. 3% on payments. If AdSense was sending a $200 payment that would be $6. it costs nothing to deposit it to one of my approved foreign accounts.

61¢ on $10 is 6%.

For me that would be fine as it's a 50/50 chance that our country's mail system would not get the cheque to me - especially if it LOOKED like a cheque.

martingale

11:36 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Open a USD bank account somewhere, in the US would be ideal. You might be able to convince Google to address the cheques to your bank and have them made payable to you, dunno.

novice

11:58 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I'm not sure Google will ever use PayPal. Google is so concerned with the privacy of their payouts they probably would not want any third parties involved.

However we could see direct payments in the future.

flyerguy

12:08 am on Mar 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Well without getting into details, even with the 3% rate (good deal, I actually checked and i'm getting dinged 69 cents on a $10 order on Paypal), I would be getting screwed due the size of my Adsense cheques.

I currently pay 15 euros for the cheque processing and have to wait 7 days. I would have the advantage as well of immediate withdrawal through Paypal, however the 'service' charge would be much more than 15 euros.


I have used PayPal extensively for over 4 years and as a Premier account I get charged approx. 3% on payments. If AdSense was sending a $200 payment that would be $6. it costs nothing to deposit it to one of my approved foreign accounts.

61¢ on $10 is 6%.

Rodney

1:16 am on Mar 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Not that Google would ever consider using PayPal, but just to clear things up (also posted in this earlier thread with a brief response from Adsense Advisor [webmasterworld.com]):

The way PayPal works, you (as a publisher) wouldn't have to pay anything to receive money from Google via PayPal (if they offered it).

Google would just need to pay PayPal a small fee (with a max fee of $1 to use the PayPal "MassPay" feature).

So, unless PayPal is charging you to transfer money from your PayPal account to your bank account (which is free in the US and other countries), then there would be no fee for this service.

As Jenstar stated though, it's doubtful that they would use PayPal (although Fastclick deals with large publisher payments and pays via PayPal).

I have a feeling direct deposit/ach payments will be a more likely option when they get around to making it a priority.

robho

1:22 am on Mar 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Wire transfers, free worldwide over a certain size, are the only way to go. One of the major domain parking companies does this for all payments over EUR 50 each month without problems.

Rodney

1:37 am on Mar 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Wire transfers, free worldwide over a certain size, are the only way to go

Depends on your definition of a "wire transfer".

My bank charges me for incoming and outgoing "wire transfers", however "ACH" deposits and withdrawls are free.

nuthin

4:50 am on Mar 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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well with my bank in Australia it costs me about $5-10 each time I deposit an adsense cheque into my bank accnt.

it also takes a whopping 30 days to actually clear the cheque and get access to my money. (however it does show in my bank account, I just can't draw on it.. so good thing is I am still getting paid interest even though I can't actually physically get the cash until it clears.)

sux.
so i'm all for other payment options they can come up with that will benefit us.

phantombookman

9:02 am on Mar 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Just think about how much it is worth to Google not to do direct payments!

There is big money in holding funds and this system leaves millions of $'s in Googles bank for longer than it would with direct transfer.
Also how many cheques never get cashed, lost in the post, held for a month or even forgotten about.
There are milllions of sites out there with adsense on that are now dormant, people moving address etc.
Millions a year must go unclaimed.

It also relieves them of the problems etc involved in converting to local currency as many accounts in different countries would not take a foreign currency transfer etc

flyerguy

9:26 am on Mar 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The customer is always right. Millions can be made from the interest, but I believe other payment options are coming; Google still has to be competitive.

I just hope everyone who would like direct deposit has at least written an email to Google requesting it. Don't think they don't have better things to do than troll message boards!

elfred

11:27 am on Mar 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I don't think Google makes money with interests because of not using wire transfers. When you issue a check you write a date on it. That is the date used by Google's bank to consider the money removed from Google's account. This means that it would make no difference to Google to pay by check or by wire transfer when coming to interests.
About PayPal: I'm from Italy and it is true that PayPal charges nothing for a wire transfer, but the exchange rate it applies is... you can find an adjective for it :-)
Just an example: right now, 1 USD=0.7466 EURO, but PayPal will do it for 1 USD= 0.729495 EURO. Out of 1000 USD, PayPal would be charging you 17.11 EURO. For 5000 USD, it would be 85.53 EURO.
As far as I can see, PayPal might be useful only for US residents.
Everything would be great if only PayPal was able to direct deposit USD to international bank accounts, but that's not true at present

flyerguy

12:36 pm on Mar 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I withdraw into my German accounts weekly. For free.

You should pester Paypal to have this in Italy.

Sobriquet

12:55 pm on Mar 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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paypal currency conversion is bad. also, it sends money thru checks to my country.

G is so big that it can actually start its own payment services.

Paris

3:37 pm on Mar 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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That is the date used by Google's bank to consider the money removed from Google's account.

Elfred, actually that's not true at all. Until the check is actually cashed or deposited by the recipient it is considered "float" and Google will collect whatever pittance of an interest it can gather from the days between the check is sent out and the funds are phsyically claimed by the recipient (or the recipient's bank).

Offsetting that you naturally have the postage and check printing fees -- yet Wall Street likes to see companies hang on to their money for as long as they can and that may be why something as logical as direct deposits has been a slow moving migration process for Google.

thewonderwall

5:45 pm on Mar 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I would desperately like direct payment from Google straight into my UK bank account every month. It would save me a lot of bother and commission

Rodney

10:48 pm on Mar 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I would desperately like direct payment from Google straight into my UK bank account every month. It would save me a lot of bother and commission

Looks like your desperation is over :) Google added Electronic Funds Transfer as a payment option today!

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