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Bye Bye Google

         

teasers

11:28 am on Feb 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have worked more than 4 years continuously, day & night on my website and it was getting more than 400 clicks/day but after all those changes Of Google my earnings were 40 if they were 100 before these changes.. so,

So I have tried a few other contextual solutions and removed AdSense codes from my website & changed my contextual ad provider. Now I'm getting the same earnings (before Google made changes) with 1/3 - 1/4 number of clicks & with 4-5 times higher CPC rates.

Looks like end of a love story, huh? :))

seogrrl

11:40 am on Feb 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Would you be willing to share who you switched to? Or what company you found higher earnings from?

Thanks.

SEOGrrl

teasers

12:24 pm on Feb 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Well I won't give the name out here or by private message as I think that won't be ethic but just please believe that the numbers that I gave are completely true.

guitaristinus

12:31 pm on Feb 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Why would that be unethical?

europeforvisitors

3:29 pm on Feb 17, 2005 (gmt 0)



So I have tried a few other contextual solutions and removed AdSense codes from my website & changed my contextual ad provider. Now I'm getting the same earnings (before Google made changes) with 1/3 - 1/4 number of clicks & with 4-5 times higher CPC rates

If an AdSense competitor is working better for you, that's great. I often wonder why more AdSense publishers who aren't happy with their earnings don't try the competition. (AdSense does have several competitors, and more are on the way.)

woop01

3:52 pm on Feb 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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joebob, I saw the thread. Why did you only use one day of traffic to compare the two programs? It would be easy for me to compare two days on Adsense to come to the conclusion that Adsense it ten times better than Adsense.

europeforvisitors

4:14 pm on Feb 17, 2005 (gmt 0)



Why did you only use one day of traffic to compare the two programs? It would be easy for me to compare two days on Adsense to come to the conclusion that Adsense it ten times better than Adsense.

LOL. Nice observation.

Come to think of it, you could e-mail AdSense Support and ask, "May I please resign from Tuesday's AdSense program and join Wednesday's"? :-)

trader

5:12 pm on Feb 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Teasers: ....Well I won't give the name out here or by private message as I think that won't be ethic...

Stop Teasing us Teaser! That's absurd, why in the world would disclosing the name of a firm you do business with be unethical? (as long as you do not disclose stats and data)

Does G really has any serious competitors?

europeforvisitors

5:27 pm on Feb 17, 2005 (gmt 0)



Interestingly, the hand-selecting should provide for them to exist alongside AS ads on a page inside of the AS TOS, yeah?

No, because the competitor's hand-selected ads are still contextual; they just aren't targeted as precisely as AdSense ads are.

trillianjedi

5:30 pm on Feb 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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just aren't targeted as precisely as AdSense ads are.

Or as the case may be, and as you pointed out, if a site is in a specific niche site-wide, quite possibly targetted more precisely than AdSense.

TJ

HughMungus

5:34 pm on Feb 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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No, because the competitor's hand-selected ads are still contextual; they just aren't targeted as precisely as AdSense ads are.

So would putting an affiliate ad for ski boots on a web page about ski boots. Also, hand-choosing ads will always be more precise than an algorithm.

Brett_Tabke

5:44 pm on Feb 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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> Well I won't give the name out here or
> by private message as I think that won't be ethic..

Absolutly. THANK YOU for realizing it.

Folks, there are people from every contextual program on the web in here. We have caught, talked to, confirmed, and taking action against two other programs for clearly carpet bombing the forums with name dropping.

This forum is for topics about AdSense (this does *not* include comparision name dropping to "freds contextual program", just to spam the name out there in front of adsense publishers)

The advertising forum [webmasterworld.com] is available for alternative contextual discussions. If/When they reach a litmus test point - we will make a new forum for them also. However, the "us vs them" name dropping and clear alternative promotion that has gone on here will stop.
We banned 2 users this morning and 12 ips for that very reason.

Please read: Professional Forum Spammers [webmasterworld.com]

Thanks to folks like Teasers for seeing, understanding, and accepting the situation.

-bt

europeforvisitors

6:45 pm on Feb 17, 2005 (gmt 0)



Also, hand-choosing ads will always be more precise than an algorithm.

In theory, that may be true, but it's likely to work well only for sites that have static content and a limited range of page topics. In other words, it isn't scaleable the way AdSense is.

Another issue for sites with diverse content is how much depth and breadth the ad network offers. (When I experimented with an AdSense competitor, virtually all of the ads were from a couple of large Internet travel agencies--i.e., the travel sector's equivalent of eBay ads.)

teasers

2:59 am on Feb 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thanks to Brett_Tabke that explained my feelings. Any single word or clue by me about the new company I'm working with will not be ethical.

The reason I started this thread is not "Google, if you're big, I'm bigger than you", I just wrote the message because I know that there are dozens of hundreds of people like me out there, and I just wanted to give you a view. Just go out there and make some search, and you'll see that there are some good networks paying good CPC rates.

In fact I didn't wrote the whole story here for not making you crazy. Payment terms are net-15. What about that?

Of course, there is a small percent of reason I started this thread is that -probably in my subconscious mind- I have a heart break with Google, but "close to whole" part of reason why I started this thread is to let you know about it.

Look from any side of it, any side.. the thing we all do is in fact a trade, a serious business. It doesn't matter if you do it in an office or do it at home with your boxer. There's one thing that's true: We are all working until early hours in the morning on our websites. Take me, for example.. I am working on my website for more than 4 years, day & night, and one morning after I woke up I saw that my earnings with Google were down 60%. That's what was wrong. Otherwise, as I said above before, we are all making business and there may be highs and lows if you're making business with someone else. You can't just go with some little change (decline) in the earnings, cause that's business. but... 60 - 65 % decline is more than I can overlook or tolerate.

I -again- don't want anyone to get me wrong. Of course there are hundreds of AdSense publishers out there who are still doing good. That may be result of so many variables like the keywords, the performance of the links, etc.

As a summary of all those.. :)

Don't get offended to G or life, just go out & make some research, and I believe that you will do fine with another one.

My very last sentence: I still do love Google. Their relatively lower performance this month doesn't make them a "bad" company anymore, or that doesn't give me the right to curse on them :) I had my first "lifetime high" earnings with Google, and I'm thanking them. Maybe they will perform better after some 6 months and I again work with them, and I believe they will do.

:) best wishes

Jesse_Smith

6:59 am on Feb 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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There are even lead programs that average more per click than Google does!