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Iīm not about to howl in protest that i am innocent because that does no good, although i am totally confused about this after 6 months of using them.In actual fact, although the web site has over 250,000 hits a day the number of clicks has steadily been going down so the accusations of false clicking is a mystery to me, the click through rate has never been higher than 0.3 %
My real question is this..disabled is their polite way of saying "terminated"? and does that mean i can kiss goodbye to the money i made in january and the money i made so far this month?
thanks
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you think that because a member was not born in the United Kingdom or the United States that they do not have a complete grasp of your language?
Well sorry but in my own case i beg to differ.
I thought miguelito's first post was in refreshing contrast to most of the account-disabled threads we get around here. But let's stop this going off topic.
Anybody with any other suggestions for miguelito?
A lot of people have been happy with Ad Sonar - if you have US traffic.
I would advise anyone opening an account with adsense to install good traffic stats that give you detailed breakdowns of where your visitors come from and if possible, what IPs are clicking on the ads so you can see and inform google at the earliest oppportunity if something looks abnormal.Iīve been a victim of my own ignorance but i wonīt let it happen again.
As for using other sites, yes there are lots of alternatives but beware that the majority are absolutely useless with the same ads and only 2 or 3 advertisers on their books...itīs quite surprising what you can find once you dig underneath their flashy front pages.Nothing is as easy as adsense in terms of set up, revenue and ad variation.To give you just two examples
-adsonar (mentioned here) has been showing the same 7 ads on my pages for three weeks now.
-adbrite, is currently showing an ad inviting people to bet on the oscars( a great deal when you consider that the results have been in for three days now)..i wonder what odds they are offering!
After You came to the conclusion, that it is possible that some forum members developt strange habits towards AdSense ads, just write this conclusions to Google and make them a offer:
To sort out any possible invalid clicks, count only visits and clicks starting the visit on my site by a search engine.
With this mehtod, I loose also some possible valid clicks, but it will shure sort out all invalid clicks
I think even when only 50% of Your clicks are from new users just finding Your site by a search engine, it's still more than the AdSense alternatives offer.
2. It's not possible for Google to know how people arrive at any page of your site anyway (unless you provide them with all your raw logs).
3. Miguelito actually has no idea why he was terminated. He's just hypothesizing, and since AdSense seems to work OK on lots of other forum sites, I don't think normal user behaviour is the most likely answer anyway.
Google has hundreds of thousands of adsense accounts, and it can terminate anyone without cause, reason or rhyme.
And from what I've heard so far, there's absolutely nothing anyone can do to get back into the program, short of creating a new account with the gf/mom/pop/brother's name.*hint*
(whether they'd let you place someone else's adsense account on the same site, it remains to be seen - I'd love to hear anyone's experience with this)
On a more positive yet even more mysterious note, i received a google check in the post for the full january amount without a single click invalidated.
There have been one or two cases in WW where an account was re-admitted.
(whether they'd let you place someone else's adsense account on the same site, it remains to be seen - I'd love to hear anyone's experience with this)No they don't allow that either. I was selling a site on behalf of a client, was very up front to the prospective purchasers who contacted G and were told the website would NEVER be re-admitted to adsense. Only solution was to sell content and they bought a new domain name (cost them $10 I think) and used redirects for the traffic until they got their own google (search) ranking
That's nonsense.
Google know exactly how people arrive on a site.
1.) An IP address makes a request at Google, some secondes later, the IP address requests an ad for a web site
2.) The javascript can sent the referer to Google
3.) A certain amount of people have the Google toolbar, so Google can trace all their steps in internet
I think all this are facts, that Google can make the best click froud detection system, because Google has much more information than all the competitiors.
2. This would be possible, but it looks to me like they'd have to change their Javascript to track the referring page. (If they did this there might also be some fairly significant privacy concerns.)
3. Um maybe, but surely you're not suggesting that only clicks from users with the toolbar activated will be credited?
Anyway, clearly Google are not going to launch a user tracking development project just to accommodate the needs of one site that has already been kicked out of the program.
...whether they'd let you place someone else's adsense account on the same site, it remains to be seen - I'd love to hear anyone's experience with this...
I have a g/f who is a webmistress also. She applied for the Adsense program, but got turned down (she had some hidden text at the bottom of her pages).
She reapplied to Adsense for a different site belonging to her relative. 2nd site was approved, so she stuck the Adsense code on her first site.
*NO DICE*
No ads would appear (not even a PSA) just blank boxes. So her site that got turned down initially was probably put in a "Adsense Sandbox" not to show any ads.
