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Made for adsense site

is it?

         

david_uk

4:46 pm on Jan 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I'm wondering if a site is made for adsense or not.

Basically it bills itself as a "Web directory", and consists of pages of links. It has no actual content relevant to the topic apart from a news ticker.

It carries no other advertising apart from Adsense, and has two or more adsense banners per page.

Thing is, a fair proportion of the links are to my content - and according to the web logs I'm getting traffic from the site. The other good thing in a way is that the links are all to reasonably good information. The problem in my sector is mis-information!

Therefore I personally am not bothered by it's existence, but I get the feeling that if it's made for adsense then I should consider reporting it.

My query then is from the description above, could it class as a genuine links directory, or does it sound like purely made for adsense?

Advice please?

Freedom

4:53 pm on Jan 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Sounds like a classic example of a scraper site, except he left the links in.

JohnKelly

6:53 pm on Jan 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I think we should limit ourselves to clear violations of the TOS, rather than report people for violating the TOS by having sites that we "think" were made for AdSense.

It's too subjective, let Google make the call.

ogletree

6:59 pm on Jan 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The problem is Google will not make the call even if you report them. It does not seem to bother them. You will get banned from the G index b4 you get banned from adsense. The only reason anybody ever gets banned from adsense is fraud clicks.

Nathan

7:35 pm on Jan 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

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If you have trouble knowing if a site is MFA, then it probably isn't all that bad...

webmastertexas

8:19 pm on Jan 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>>Therefore I personally am not bothered by it's existence, but I get the feeling that if it's made for adsense then I should consider reporting it.<<

Why in the world should you make yourself Google's Policeman? You're just one guy -- they have a MUTLI-NATIONAL CORPORATION worth BILLIONS OF DOLLARS at their disposal.

I'm always curious by posts like this. Is it all altruistic, I wonder, or is it because of some sense of jealousy? Some envy?

Mind you, I'm not accusing you of anything, but it does make me wonder why strangers are so overly concern about what other strangers are doing, when the chances of that person's actions having an impact on yours is absolutely nil. Do you really think this guy's site, or a thousand like it, or millions, will impact your earnings? I highly doubt it.

ncw164x

8:40 pm on Jan 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

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There are 100's if not 1,000's of sites like the type you are describing.

Instead of busying yourself complaining about other sites why don't you concentrate on your site because long term these scraper made for adsense sites will not be around forever and the likes of you and I will not make any difference to the enormous job google have of cleaning up this garbage.

HughMungus

8:52 pm on Jan 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

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First you'd have to define what "made for Adsense" means. No one has been able to define that, yet. It's like saying, "made for advertising".

If you want to bring undue attention to YOUR website, go ahead and report it.

david_uk

9:18 pm on Jan 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

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There are often comments and threads here about MFA sites. My motive for posting was mild curiosity as to what others here do, or do not consider "Made for adsense".

As I said in the original post, I get referrals from the site, and in a sector where there are a fair few Mis-information sites, having a site that does link to quality information (even if it was MFA) is a good thing. Of course it doesn't affect my visitor stats or adsense earnings, except potentially in the positive direction. Clearly the correct course of action is to work on converting their referrals into clicks for me!

HughMungus

9:20 pm on Jan 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Could you point to one where anyone from Google defines what "made for Adsense" means?

contentsiteguy

9:59 pm on Jan 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

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In my opinion there is nothing inherently wrong with making a site to produce adsense income as long as there is good quality content. Those scraper sites are wrong because they use other people's content to do so. Sooner or later, you are going to see the viability of these sites disappear. Smart pricing was just the first step. There are already rumors that Google is considering letting advertisers choose which sites they want to advertise on in the content network or block those they don't. These types of sites will likely be the first to go.

sailorjwd

10:01 pm on Jan 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I've come across a few of these possible MFA sites. The ones that i report to Google are ones where I click my link and come to my website and see that my Adsense ads are blocked and it says 'file not found.. return to search hippo'.. I don't know why they get block - maybe they are framing my site.

david_uk

6:47 am on Feb 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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In my opinion there is nothing inherently wrong with making a site to produce adsense income as long as there is good quality content. Those scraper sites are wrong because they use other people's content to do so.

The site in question didn't steal my, or anyone esle's content. Nor did it have any actual content of it's own - just pages of links. I personally didn't see anything wrong with this. I was just curious as to if the site fitted in with what others consider would describe as a) some form of MFA site, and b) reportable.

I suppose the only thing I'd say is that if it were me making up this site, then I'd at least have addded a moderate amount of content!

Hugene

6:52 pm on Feb 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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david_uk, please do not report other sites to adsense unless they are directly stealing your content.

People underestimate the quality of clicks comming from MFA sites. I keep repeating this, the clicks from such sites are equivalent, or at most a slightly lower quality than not-MFA sites. Do you honestly think that, after reading a review about a device, and clicking the adsense ad about it, the costumer is gonna buy it imediatelly. Lets not lie to ourselves here.

MFA sites provide the basic service of collecting traffic from obscure search queries and directing possible customers in the right direction.

Google has the ability and their own methods to deal with MFA, spam, click fraud and all. Unless your buisness is DIRECTLY victimized by someone's practices, you have no right to report that person.

europeforvisitors

8:00 pm on Feb 1, 2005 (gmt 0)



Unless your buisness is DIRECTLY victimized by someone's practices, you have no right to report that person.

Sure, you do. Nobody has to give up a legal or moral right just because an anonymous stranger said "you have no right" on this forum. :-)

I don't go around reporting made-for-AdSense sites to AdSense Support, as a rule, because I'm sure that Google is well aware of them. However, if I'm searching on a topic and find a scraper directory site (with or without AdSense ads) in the #1 spot, I'll often report it to Google Search via the "Dissatisfied?" form because it's in my own interests to help Google Search do a better job. (Just the other day, I was looking for information on a prescription drug's side effects, and all of the top 10 search results were pharmaceutical affiliate pages or AdSense scraper sites. You can be sure that I complained to Google about those search results!)

johnwhitesmith

12:06 am on Feb 2, 2005 (gmt 0)



not much you can do about it. Some people make entire sites about the M word but mot much you can do about it since adwords doesnt let you sellect the websites.

Chico_Loco

12:33 am on Feb 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Ultimately, if the content is good, they'll get clicks and generate $$$.

If it isn't, it won't make that much and the webmaster himself will probably get rid if it.

Just let it be - things work themselves out in the end.

hyperkik

5:32 am on Feb 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Why make a site about mesothelioma? A couple thousand new cases per year, and a couple thousand new sites per day (among the six million or so already indexed in Google)? If you pick that topic for your 'made for AdSense' site, you're swimming upstream - and for a keyword that has seen dramatically diminished returns, for reasons that should be obvious.

johnwhitesmith

6:45 am on Feb 2, 2005 (gmt 0)



yea, M doesnt pay too much these days...but I know secret keywords that pay much more than M that have yet to be uncovered...