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ken_b: One of the great things about Adsense is that it gives publishers a chance to pursue whatever financial goals they may have for their website.
A very intelligent post.
Ok, my goals (in order):
1.) Make enough for my websites to pay for themselves (design, hosting fees, etc.) GOAL ACHIEVED
2.) Make enough to give up the "day job" -- NOT YET, BUT GETTING CLOSE NOW
3.) Make enough to change my lifestyle for the better -- NOT YET
The UPS club - formerly called the FedEx club - is used to refer to those earning more than $10K a month from Adsense.
Answering the question. I want to earn loads of money per month. Haha.
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In otherwords, a few bad apples in the bunch could ruin it for the rest of us.
However, I did post a link in the adwords forum to an article about how online ad spending would grow by another 20 percent in the USA in 2005.
So maybe we are not in any immediate danger.
Cross fingers...
My long term goal is to retire and be able to live a life of luxury solely from Adsense income sometime this decade.
My short term goal is to keep my composure until my long term goal is met.
up to $500 - or nothing in other words. Folks who run their sites for fun.
$500-2000 – “teenagers’ income”. Suitable for college students. Considerably improves their financial position.
$2000-5000 – OK, but not enough to quit a day job. I guess, most of the posters, that speculate here about quitting a full time job, are in that group.
$4000-6000 – that’s the point where it seems reasonable to say goodbye to corporate America (India, China, Spain, etc.), but your lifestyle will remain the same (income- or opportunity wise).
$6000+ You are an independent entrepreneur, your lifestyle has changed for the better, you start outsourcing programming/content writing and you are engaged into the thoughts of how to preserve the current situation with adsense.
I'll bet for the minimum wage guy that graduated FFU (french fry university) the $1000+ range is mighty attractive as a new career.
Without disclosing specifics, my web site does pay the mortgage and all the bills :)
The blame for this can be laid firmly at Google's doorstep and when the penny drops they will no longer be "cuddly little Google". The press will see them for what they have become and respond accordingly. At this point Google will have to respond or die. Major changes to Adsense will result. Wait and see.
So I prefer not to count on my meagre Adsense cheques as earnings - just a little bonus perhaps, (and a temporary one at that!)
I think one's needs and goals vary greatly according to where they live. And I wouldn't call $2k/month teenager income. I know a lot of people in the USA who make that amount or less from the jobs.
BeeDeeDoubleU has a posting history of not liking Google in just about every aspect. So, without any disrespect to his post above or posts in general, (which can be great at playing devil's advocate sometimes) it is my belief that he is projecting a personal agenda more then facts.
There are legitimate concerns about the AS program that all publishers should consider, but I have more faith that Google will work to improve the quality and integrity of a program responsible for $100s millions (?) in income.
Unfortunately I'm living in West European country.
So my adsense and affiliate earnings are worth a lot less than they would be if I lived in the States.
For the moment their is a very bad dollar/euro exchange rate. For each dollar I only get about 0.76EUR. Three year ago a dollar was worth approx. 1.10EUR. And another reason is that some countries charge a lot more tax than others do.
There are legitimate concerns about the AS program that all publishers should consider, but I have more faith that Google will work to improve the quality and integrity of a program responsible for $100s millions (?) in income.
Isn't that what I just said?
Major changes to Adsense will result. Wait and see.
This is not so much about me not liking Google as my love of the Internet. I have no problem with Google per se but they created Adsense and Adsense is the worst thing to happen to the Internet in the last couple of years.
Sure Google's fine if you are making money from it and who can blame all of you who are? However there is no getting away from the fact that their Adsense program as it stands is jeopardising the whole future of the Internet as we know it.
Again, this numbers – just my conclusions, based on reading this site
...Adsense is the worst thing to happen to the Internet in the last couple of years......However there is no getting away from the fact that their Adsense program as it stands is jeopardising the whole future of the Internet as we know it.
There is no getting away from the fact that their Adsense program is jeopardizing the future of the internet?
How in the world did you come to this conclusion? I am not trying to get into a big argument with you, but to say that your statement is a "fact" and then not to follow through with more detailed explanations of how you arrived at this "fact" is a very curious matter to me.
I am very eager to be educated by your reasoning and find out how you came to this conclusion.
And to be honest, you are the first person I've ever seen make the claim that AS is "jeopardizing the internet." Sure, there's a lot of crappy made for adsense websites out there, but there were always these type websites. They were just pushing some other product/affiliate program.
Now, if you said that the English Language market on the internet is in jeopardy of being ruined by cruddy websites, I might agree with you. Everyone and their third world dog targets the US/UK markets. However, I don't think that can be blamed on AS. It's more complex then that.
And an interesting side note, while the English language serps get over-run and over-populated, I earn more per 100 visitors on my websites translated into foreign languages then I do per 100 English speaking visitors.
AS didn't bring out the bad apples and spammers and button pushers, they were always there.
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BTW: My biggest tip for AS publishers is to tap into the untapped markets by translating content. It's cheaper then ever thanks to various contractor for hire venues.
The furthering of AdSense means more on-topic websites are always been created. How can this be a bad thing?
You mean made for adsense with some content on one of the pages?
I want to be a member of new category, called "Super Express Club", in which Sergey and Lary deliver Payment in Boxes by charter flight
It is pretty cool when they both bow down before you and kiss your feet ;)
I will be happy with US$ 20k/month, beeaaauutifuuuuulll dream, but I need wake up to build more cotent :)
I usually clear about 18-23k/mo as a Subprime Mortgage Account Executive in Newport Beach, CA ;-)
My son has the adsense stuff going on
The furthering of AdSense means more on-topic websites are always been created. How can this be a bad thing?
I assume that you had your tongue firmly in your cheek when you wrote that.
I dreamed 2003 from $100.000 a month from realtors.
I had a special software where realtors can put all their real estate easy on web pages. Extrem search engine friendly.
After some test clients, I was on my first big tour for new clients. Coming home, I read an email
"Where are my pages in Google" from one of my test clients.
Google changed search algorithms....
....the dream from $100.000 a month from realtors vanished.
Then I'll move it to another park :-)
BDW, I'm working on building a new Made-For-Adsense site.
Yup, I'm creating a site for Adsense. There seems to be a certain stigma to this and I believe it's because the usual MFA sites are spammy/dodgy/scraping scum. But, why can't a quality site be created for Adsense?
Let's face it, I wouldn't have created the site if Adsense didn't exist. But, now that it does, and I know what works, I don't see anything wrong with hiring a few professional writers and putting together some quality content for a new site to earn money pretty much purely off Adsense. (I have a backup plan should Adsense go tits-up)
Wish me luck :)
