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Mulitple adsense accounts

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lgn1

8:43 pm on Nov 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I believe it is against Adsense policy to have mulitple Adsense Accounts.

Does this apply at the company level or at the directors level.

I have several companies, and would like to keep adsense revenue separate for each limited company.

I am however the director of each of these companies,
with the same mailing address.

Would this be a violation of the Adsense TOS.

Broadway

9:12 pm on Nov 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have two corporations, two web sites, and two separate AdSense accounts. I use the same mailing address and the same contact person name (mine) with both accounts. I use different ISP's when loging into each account.

I really wanted the second account for record keeping simplicity. Both corporations pay taxes on their own.

Jon12345

11:52 am on Nov 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I think it would be good if Google clarified this. After all, it is a frequently asked question. It is not good enough to keep it fuzzy and undefined. We want to run legitimate businesses but if you don't know where the speed limit is, you might get a speeding ticket.

Come on Google, can you make this clear for us please?

The TOS mention stuff about individuals, entities and networks. Are they saying that if you are a director on multiple companies that you are therefore a network and cannot have an Adsense account on each?

Yes, I love Adsense. But...it seems that the TOS mean Google can do pretty much anything and close down your account for virtually any reason. This is such a shame because I love Googles search engine, I think they have done a great job in helping both surfers and SEO's. But when it comes to Adsense their TOS are a bit onerous.

Anyone else here got an answer on this one? For those who are directors on multiple companies, even if you are doing it you may be breaking their TOS unwittingly. I am sure you would like to stay in Googles good books. So maybe Google can help us here.

lgn1

3:44 pm on Nov 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Legally, a corporation is a 'person', so two different companies are two separate 'persons', regardless of who the directors are.

For tax reasons, income must be reported properly for each company, however Google does have a mechanism by using channels to do that.

So I guess the question is, can Google force mulitiple corporations to use the same google adwords account, if the directors are the same.

I think the TOS was thinking of individuals and and not the complexity of the corporation, when they threw that little restriction in.

It would be nice if Adsenseadvisor to weigh in on this one.

sonny

4:00 pm on Nov 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have 2 accounts. had them since just about the beginning. I did it to keep separate track of sites, before they had channels. I check and do everything from my one computer. No problems so far

Jon12345

4:07 pm on Nov 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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In some cases I imagine there is considerable overlap on keywords. The question that arises is does this break the TOS with Google if they are seperate corporations.

Having just read the TOS I cannot work it out! Perhaps they leave it deliberately vague so they can just shut your account if they feel like it.

mark1615

4:49 pm on Nov 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It is completely unclear - like just about everything else about G. G thinks everything they touch should be a black box which usually works against their stated goals. Most folks just want to know the groundrules - but G wants to be able to take any action at any time. They make dealing with MS seem easy.

Vec_One

5:08 pm on Nov 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I know that Google has sometimes allowed publishers to have more than one account, if they had a good reason and asked politely. One would have to be pretty tricky to covertly establish multiple accounts without Google catching on though. I certainly wouldn't try it.

I can't blame Google for leaving out a few details in the TOS. It's a lot easier to evolve a new program like this if you can change the rules on he fly. I think we are given a lot of freedom, which I appreciate. For example, we can put our AdSense code on any site we want. Google has been criticized for being too generous in that regard. You can please all of the people some of the time and you can please some of the people all of the time but...

Jon12345

5:15 pm on Nov 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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We are talking about seperate legal entities that stand in their own right. If a director of a corporation dies, for example, it does not mean the company shuts down.

Google states an individual cannot have more than one adsense account. It also states an entity cannot have more than one adsense account. However, the question is can a seperate legal entity (corporation) compete in the same niche as another legal entity if the common link is the same director with each company.

I have a strong feeling that Google will not give any clear answer on this one.

Broadway

3:09 am on Nov 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have two AdSense accounts for two different corporations. It never crossed my mind that it would be against the TOS. I went to the TOS and saw this line:

"Multiple accounts held by the same individual or entity are subject to immediate termination unless expressly authorized in writing by Google (including by electronic mail)."

I set both of my sites up as separate corporations for liability reasons. Separate corporations are spearate entities. Therefore if one of my corporations gets sued it has nothing to do with the other. That's my insurance policy.

I don't see how there is a question that two corporations are two separate entities. My state and the federal goverment recognize these corporations as separate entities. Each has to have its own tax ID. I didn't try any subterfuge when setting these accounts up with AdSense. They approved them no questions asked.

dejaone

5:04 am on Nov 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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how about one account for individual and another account for a corporate, both of them will have the same contact person. is this against adsense TOS?

lgn1

4:56 pm on Nov 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I don't think this would be a problem either because their is the word 'or' between individual and entity,
not 'and' or 'and/or'.

Now Google can change all this by rewriting the TOS, however. But my understanding is that they can't terminate you based on the existing TOS.

If Google wanted things to be different, then they would rewrite the TOS and give you so many days to consolidate your google accounts.

English is such a terible language for contract law. Maybe contract law should be written in total mathamatical logic notation.

Macro

11:26 am on Nov 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>>how about one account for individual and another account for a corporate

I have emailed them about this in the past, they checked my sites and emailed back that they'd allow me to do it.

Strictly speaking though the previous arguments about a registered, limited liability company being a separate legal entity apply.

Jon12345

11:39 am on Nov 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Macro,

I am a little unsure what you mean by the previous arguments. Are you saying that it is legitimate to have seperate corporations with the same director that target the same keyword niches?

Macro

11:55 am on Nov 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I meant I'm in full agreement with lgn1 on this:

Legally, a corporation is a 'person', so two different companies are two separate 'persons', regardless of who the directors are.

My point was that in theory you shouldn't have to contact Google for approval. I contacted them just because I like to play it safe.