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Simplistic vs. Elaborate 'formulas' for Earning More

         

shafaki

4:13 am on Nov 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I am fed up with the simplistic calculations given for earning more from AdSeense. Those simple tips go on the lines of:

1- Make pages for high price adwords.
2- Increase the number of impressions.
3- Increase the number of click-throughs.

Those simplistic 'tips' fail to recognize the fact that high price adwords face the highest competition from publishers. Also, highly priced words does not guarantee the words have the largest number of audience (potential clickers on the ads). Therefore, and because of those two reasons, racing mindelssly for the highest priced adwords is a simplistic way of thinking how to earn more. One should factor in other varialbes such as how many publishers would compete with you for this adword, and how large is the audience for it. A formula containing all these three variables (adword value, publishers' competition, size of audience) is the one more likely to work.

darkmage

6:09 am on Nov 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi shafaki

Welcome to WebMasterWorld. The first part of what you wrote is on the money. However, your alternative suggestions won't really make any difference. The first problem you face is that we don't have that data. Then you have to hope that Google matches your site to these areas.

The big issue to look at is that it is Advertisers who ultimately set the price of ads and Google has such complex bidding and Smart Pricing systems that it makes it hard to work out what is happening at any moment. Then in a flash it will all change. One or two advertisers leaving a keyword group can cause the price to plummet. Just have a look around this forum for threas about income going down (and up) and you'll see how messy it gets.

Bottom line for me: put together the best site you can and use your current Google resources to optimise your income (eg Channels, Preview tool).

Mauricio

7:19 am on Nov 17, 2004 (gmt 0)



I think the formula is easier:
Add everyday a lot of fresh and good content.

Searche engines will love you, vistors will come back and you will make a little more every month. One year later you will have a healthy and serious business there.
Hard but simple.

JuniorOptimizer

11:46 am on Nov 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I agree with Mauricio. The best bet is to forget your ego and just do the mind-numbing work that 90% of people won't do.

Sites that have a very broad view of a subject tend to grow in revenue every month.

alika

12:41 pm on Nov 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Many folks just want the easy money, not the work involved. The surest and quickest way to make money. Unfortunately.

Macro

1:12 pm on Nov 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>>I am fed up with the simplistic calculations given for earning more from AdSeense.

I don't know where you get that from. It's unlikely to be something you gauged from the general discussions on this board.

The simple calculations you mention are simple calculations for Adsense spam.

But Mauricio has the real formula. Unfortunately, some readers won't understand it.

Welcome to WW. :)

europeforvisitors

3:10 pm on Nov 17, 2004 (gmt 0)



I think the formula is easier:
Add everyday a lot of fresh and good content.

Precisely. Having a diverse collection of subtopics within your overall topic is also helpful, because your ads--and revenues--will come from a larger base of advertisers.

shafaki

9:43 am on Nov 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yeh, thanks for your great replies. I benefited from them enormously.

Ashraf Al Shafaki
Cairo, Egypt

bts111

9:56 am on Nov 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Love what you do and do what you love.

You will be driving the car of your choice in no time ; )

dmedia

9:10 pm on Nov 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Love what you do and do what you love

Or at least "learn to love what you do" so .. you can do what you REALLY love with the freedom the hard hard work during these go-to days of net money will bring you.

Honestly, I've trained myself to actually enjoy (ok, tolerate in reasonable doses) some of the grunt work I hate the most about web stuff .. not a masochist, just a realist.

johnwhitesmith

12:25 am on Nov 19, 2004 (gmt 0)



Good webcontent will bring viewers and thus more clicks.